How to decide on the proper way to set up a delta neutral portfolio for volatility trading

Discussion in 'Options' started by Victor123, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. Let us say I want to do volatility trading. i.e I conclude that implied volatility is cheap and will rise. So I need to set up a delta neutral portfolio with long volatility exposure. I am looking to benefit when volatility rises, thereby increasing option prices and I want to hedge my directional risk.

    So I can do this by either:
    1.Buying call and shorting stock
    2.Buying put and buying stock

    Which one to use when?
     
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Theoretically you should be indifferent. But in reality you should consider, financing costs, dividend risks (if American options), borrow costs, and ease of transactions (bid test rule, etc).

    I generally buy stock vs shorting it. Because it's easier to cut the stock and I don't have to worry about borrow. However, for others, it could present a balance sheet problem. For me it doesn't.
     
  3. Thanks. What do you mean by balance sheet problem? I am an individual trader, so I dont have any restriction against shorting. Are you talking about a portfolio manager for a pension fund that is not allowed to short stock? If you can elaborate please?
     
  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    As a retail trader, the balance sheet is probably less of a concern in the two examples you provided.

    But it would limit your capacity compared to buying straddles in a reg t account. And if you are big enough you can hit credit limits with certain retail brokers (basically amount of cash you are borrowing even if it is risk less) if you are running a lot of stock.
     
  5. Got it, thanks. But is not the profit potential the double for a straddle position as opposed to :
    1.long call + short stock
    2.long stock + long put
    3.long stock + short call

    Based on this, does it make sense to make the initial trade always an ATM straddle for a vol trader?
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2015
  6. xandman

    xandman

    The straddle is the most efficient expression of a long/short volatility view.

    1:1 stock+option results in an over hedged position with regards to delta.
     
  7. Thanks. I should have been clear. I did not refer to 1:1 stock:wtf:ption...More like a 0.5 : 1 for stock:wtf:ption.
    My opinion is that the straddle is more efficient because it has double the vega/gamma exposure, is it correct way of thinking?
     
  8. xandman

    xandman

    Yes.
     
  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    No. because a straddle = to buying 1 share of stock and 2 puts.
     
  10. xandman

    xandman

    Go with what this guy says. He knows a lot more than me.

    Btw newwurlmdn, what is wrong with the double gamma, double vega concept?
     
    #10     May 1, 2015