How do I report 1000s of futures and options trades

Discussion in 'Taxes and Accounting' started by BlackChips2003, Jan 21, 2016.

  1. Essentially I deposited 10k at IB and lost everything.. The money here is not significant but im wondering if theres any way of getting some of it back in my tax refund.

    If you're curious.. I was breaking even for a few months and "rage quit" buy going all in on some weekly option.

    I know IB will issue a 1099b.. Will there be a single line that will just say.. (Loss 10k)? It would take many hours to reconcile each trade individually. The crazy part is that there were so many trades that maybe before commissions I was actually profitable.. in which case I would still be stuck with a tax bill? How much of my loss can be expensed?

    What are my options here??
    A) ignore it and act dumb if they come back to me
    B) attempt to do full accounting
    C) take the maximum deduction allowed without showing all details?

    Thanks
     
  2. destriero

    destriero

    The 1099 nets the PNL. Yes, you need to schedule and send in the return. You can take $3K against any W-2 earnings. You can ignore it as you're owed (against payroll, II, etc.), but it makes sense to take the $3K max against earnings.
     
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  3. Thanks, so if I take the 3k deduction, I don't need to reconcile every trade..

    In this case I would be leaving 7k (10k loss) on the table.. How much of a cash refund am I missing out if I don't recognize the "entire" loss..

    My taxable payroll earnings would be reduced by an additional 7k so my refund would be an extra $1000? or so? any estimate
     
  4. If the difference between taking the regular 3k deduction and reconciling the entire 10k loss only comes out to a few hundred dollars on top of my refund.. It doesn't seems worth it to pay a CPA/pro hundreds of dollars to do it..
     
  5. rwk

    rwk

  6. I would just take my ending balance, subtract it from my balance on dec 31 2014 and enter it as a loss in turbotax. If you had a profit it would be different.
     
  7. speedo

    speedo

    Depends if you have a trading entity or are trading as an individual.