How come my commission on IBKR to sell 30 Contracts was -$0.06?

Discussion in 'Options' started by JesseJamesFinn1, Apr 28, 2020.

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    I don't get rebates on my stock trading with IBKR, my question is why was the total ticket -$.06 to sell 30 contracts of INO May 1, 2020 $13 Calls? This includes Exchange fees, OPRA fees, ect.. The Free Brokers charge $.15 to $.75 per contract, for all the complaining some do about IBKR with Options their not terrible, platform is extremely stable compared to other sites that crash all the time.
     
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  2. Because your exchange rebate for adding liquidity was greater than your commission and fees.
     
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  3. Thank you, so IBKR with options is cheaper than the Free Online Brokerages as long as you provide liquidity. No $.15-$.75 per contract fee, plus their platform has not crashed on me!
     
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  4. FSU

    FSU

    This

    Your order was filled on the GMNI exchange, which I believe gives .75 per contract for adding liquidity. Not sure if IB passes on the total amount, but this is why you had a commission credit for the trade.
     
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  5. traider

    traider

    I set highest rebate but I'm always routed to EMERALD. Is GEMINI much better? Damn I've been missing a ton !
     
  6. FSU

    FSU

    My info is a bit old, but I have Emerald, Pearl and Arca at .85 per contract in non penny optionable. Better than GEMI
     
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  7. ET180

    ET180

    Smart routing is supposed to consider rebate as well as current bid-ask of each exchange. Would you rather sell an option for 1.10 and get a 0.06 rebate on GEMINI or sell an option for 1.11 and pay a 0.7 total fee? I have never found a reason to use anything other than SMART routing.
     
  8. FSU

    FSU

    I have found that I am generally better off not using Smart routing, if I have time.
    I will send a 1 lot to the CBOE where there is no liquidity rebate or charge. Once I establish the best price I can get, I will then send another order to an exchange where a high rebate is paid using the same price. Sometimes I will be filled, usually not. But this way I will ensure I get the best price and the highest rebate.
     
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  9. ET180

    ET180

    Then I'm guessing you have an automated routine to do that. Because by the time I do that manually, the bid-ask would have likely changed and I would have been better or worse off simply submitting the entire order earlier. Basically the change in market pricing over time will have a bigger effect than the commission on the total sale or purchase so it's basically just noise for me.
     
  10. FSU

    FSU

    That's why I said if you have the time. It really depends on what you are trading. If you are trading options such the are moving quickly, I agree with you, smart routing is probably best.

    I tend to trade a lot of back month out of the money puts where time is not of the essence. Here my method seems to work best.
     
    #10     Apr 28, 2020
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