How big should a hedge be?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Rickylee, Oct 7, 2017.

  1. Rickylee

    Rickylee

    Hi All,

    I am trying to figure out how big my hedge positions should be. I'm assuming that it should be a proportion of the primary position but I am having difficulty finding the right balance.

    any comment would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    Ricky
     
  2. truetype

    truetype

    Hedging what instrument(s)?
     
  3. Rickylee

    Rickylee

    Stocks
     
  4. truetype

    truetype

    'Stocks' is not an instrument. What tickers are you trying to hedge?
     
  5. Rickylee

    Rickylee

    Various within my portfolio but the first stock is PayPal
     
  6. Pekelo

    Pekelo

    Hedging comes with a cost of the profits. The more you hedge, the less you make. A full hedge makes exactly zero profits...

    So how much of your profits do you want to give up? That is how much you should hedge...
     
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  7. algofy

    algofy

    This is true for everybody but handle.
     
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  8. Hedging is basically a fancy term for insurance.

    The more insurance you want to be covered for...the more your premiums will be.
    It's as simple as that. o_O it's your call...where you want to fall on that spectrum. No one else can answer that question, but you,
     
  9. Your hedge should be of appropriate size to give the desired recovery should the event it's hedging against occur. Hedging against a 20% market wide downturn looks very different from a sector hedge against 5% moves.

    It looks vaguely like you're asking this from an investor's point of view. You'll figure out quickly applying the metric above will come at a cost likely higher than you wish to pay, if that's in fact the case.
     
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  10. Chuck Norris doesn't hedge! But if he did, he would hedge his long SPY with Short ES and make money on both sides! Joking aside, are you looking to protect against overnight event risk or obtain reduced margin requirements? How much percent single stock and or portfolio drawdown is acceptable to you? Depending on equity investment type, overnight risk could range from 5 to 40 percent.

    For example, say your overnight risk tolerance is 5% and your perceived overnight risk is 20%. Divide your risk tolerance by your perceived risk for your acceptable exposure. Hedge the remainder.

    So 5% / 20% = 25%. Hedge 75% of your investment. Proof: 25% exposure X 20% overnight risk = 5% acceptable risk. Intraday risk tolerances are typically much less than this number.

    Note, with multiple investments, you would want to use a spreadsheet and would want to take into account of the effect or benefit of multiple investments on risk.
     
    #10     Oct 7, 2017