how advanced is trading AI right now? anyone in the ai game can shed some light?

Discussion in 'Artificial Intelligence' started by mute9003, Feb 14, 2025.

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  1. mute9003

    mute9003

    i feel like the ai is unfair advantage against retail traders trying to trade manually we are no match for supercomputers.
    can ai today do this for example?

    keep track of each individual buy and sell order and map it on the chart so it knows exactly where each individual trader entered and exited(learning based on pattern and behavior and share size obviously not a magic 8 ball)

    and on shorter time frame it would know that scalpers will be buying and selling many times at exact price in the chart and most likely will be using same order number to buy specific amount of shares.
    so for example ai can accumulate that data intraday and basically keep track of each order so when you say "the market" doesnt care about you. well things have changed and market sees your order now because its not a person watching the tape its a massive supercomputer capable of keeping track of each individual order mapped on the chart which a human is not able to do...

    im watching the one second chart and i noticed something odd in last few months that i did not see before.
    the chart movement adapts instantly to what is happening.
    in the past algos usually have a preset response. chart does this algo reacts in a specific way.from what i understand algos are programmed to mimic human response.
    but ai can be instructed to adapt instantly and to create its own response not based on human ability like old algos

    so for example. chart is dropping. people are not selling. chart keeps dropping in a very controlled manner. people are still holding. it continues to drop very slowly. no massive selloff. almost like when you play with the cat you pull the string when you see it react. i feel like ai would be capable of such control over market..


    basically what im seeing is that algo used to react much slower to chart movement. and what im seeing now is AI basically having complete control over chart movement because of how much more processing it can do.

    so if anyone has more than average experience with ai im curious to see if AI would be capable of this or we are not there yet?
     
  2. All things come and go.

    Maybe the retail trader is a thing of the past.
     
  3. s trader

    s trader

    Don't know if it' ai but i usually played okay with a funded account but lost decisively with a real account.
     
  4. Sprout

    Sprout

    Lot's of hype in your speculation. To get grounded in what's actually happening, search for all the big players, look at the requirements for the job postings. ML has been on the scene prior to but experienced an emergence since the 'Algo Wars.' LLMs rn, most likely, are used for 'sentiment analysis' and parsing various social media streams.

    If you are stuck on new streams, you'll also be at the effect for news events are for the most part 'liquidity events' and smart money has already pre-positioned to take profit.

    The domain is extremely obfuscated and only digging deep into exchange rules, the proposed changes with the SEC; can one begin to infer what is the current cutting edge.

    The only way for retail to mitigate without substantial investments in infrastructure and datafeeds, imho, is to go to higher timeframes.


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    Last edited: Feb 15, 2025
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