hedge fund death

Discussion in 'Trading' started by stock777, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. Well, they locked the et is dying thread for some odd reason, but if 1000 hedge funds are closing what does that say for the chances of the unwashed masses that congregate here, looking for assistance from the blind?
     
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  3. loyek590

    loyek590

    they don't invest with you because you are a good trader, they invest because you are a good salesman

    if you don't like selling hedge funds, go back and sell Cadillacs where you belong
     
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  4. This is probably just a function of small caps doing worse than big caps. That's what happens later in bull market, or at least what happened in late 90s.
     
  5. loyek590

    loyek590

    ??? The market is at an all time high, nobody is doing worse, and in 1999 QQQ kept going long after SPY petered out
     
  6. Who are the investors of these active management stocks funds? Retail or institutional?

    " Indeed, the top active managers have delivered. For example, $US10,000 invested in the Yacktman Fund on Nov. 23, 2004, would have been worth $US27,844 on Nov. 25 of this year; the same amount invested in the S&P 500 would be worth $US21,649, according to Lipper.

    Even so, active funds as a group tend to lag broad market indexes, though this year’s underperformance is extreme. In the rout of 2008, when the S&P 500 fell 38 per cent, more than half of the active large cap stock funds had declines that were greater than those of their benchmarks, Lipper found. The last time when more than half of active large cap stock managers beat their index was 2009, when the S&P 500 was up 26 per cent. That year, 55 per cent of these managers beat their benchmarks.
    UNUSUALLY BAD BETS

    In 2014, some recurring bad market bets were made by various active managers. Holding too much cash was one. "
     
  7. loyek590

    loyek590

    ??? what kind of reasoning is that? If you could have been lucky enough to pick the one good fund, you could have out performed the S&P.
     
  8. loyek590

    loyek590

    my 90 year old mother has outperformed 85% of all professional money managers on wall street over the last 20 years, and a lot of that was just saving the 2/20, just investing in the Vanguard 500 index. But the salesman are out there, trying to get that 2/20 by promising out sized returns, and sure enough, just like the lottery, everybody wins it from time to time. And if you are high net worth, it must piss you off if one of your friends hits it.
     
  9. picking a mm is no dif than picking stocks. throwing a dart won't cut it.
     
  10. loyek590

    loyek590

    I pay premium dollars to buy darts that are not available for sale to common investors (unless they have money and are willing to pay 2/20.)
     
    #10     Dec 2, 2014