Getting More Familiar with Market Profile

Discussion in 'Technical Analysis' started by expiated, Jun 14, 2025 at 11:44 AM.

  1. expiated

    expiated

    Is market profile categorized under technical analysis?

    Yes, market profile is considered a type of technical analysis. Market profile organizes market data, such as price and volume, to reveal how buyers and sellers interact at different price levels over a specific time period. This organization allows traders to identify key trading zones, potential support and resistance levels, and market sentiment, all of which are core elements of technical analysis.
    Here's why:
    • Focus on Price and Volume:
      Market profile charts specifically focus on price distribution and trading activity at different price levels, similar to other technical analysis tools that use price and volume data.
    • Identification of Market Structure:
      It helps traders understand the market's structure, including value areas, points of control, and other elements that can signal potential support and resistance.
    • Analysis of Market Sentiment:
      By examining price and volume data, market profile provides insights into market sentiment and the balance between supply and demand.
    • Decision Making:
      Traders use market profile information to make informed decisions about entry and exit points, as well as to assess potential price movements.
    While market profile is not a traditional technical indicator like moving averages, it provides a framework for understanding market behavior based on price and volume data, which is a fundamental aspect of technical analysis.
     
  2. expiated

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    What is the "value area" when a trader or investor is analyzing market profile?

    The value area in market profile analysis refers to the price range where approximately 70% (or one standard deviation) of the trading volume or time spent occurred during a given period, typically a trading session. It represents the area where the market found fair value, as most participants (buyers and sellers) transacted within this range.

    Key Points:
    • Calculation: The value area is determined by identifying the price range that encompasses 70% of the trading activity, centered around the Point of Control (POC), which is the price level with the highest volume or time spent.
    • Components:
      • Value Area High (VAH): The upper boundary of the value area.
      • Value Area Low (VAL): The lower boundary of the value area.
      • Point of Control (POC): The price level within the value area where the most trading activity occurred.
    • Interpretation:
      • Prices within the value area are considered "fair" or accepted by the market.
      • Prices above or below the value area may indicate potential overvaluation or undervaluation, respectively, and could signal directional moves or reversals.
      • Traders use the value area to identify support/resistance levels, gauge market sentiment, and make decisions about entries, exits, or stop-loss placements.
    • Market Profile Context: The value area is visualized in a market profile chart, which plots price levels against time or volume using a histogram-like structure (TPO or volume-based profiles).
    Example:
    If a stock’s market profile for a day shows a POC at $100, with 70% of the trading activity occurring between $98 (VAL) and $102 (VAH), this range ($98–$102) is the value area. Traders might expect the stock to consolidate within this range unless a breakout occurs, signaling a shift in market perception of value.

    The value area helps traders understand where the market perceives value and anticipate potential price movements based on how prices interact with this range.
     
  3. expiated

    expiated

    What do financial market analysts mean when they say "value and price are not the same thing"?

    When financial market analysts say "value and price are not the same thing," they are highlighting the distinction between a security's intrinsic value and its market price. Here's a concise explanation:

    • Price: This is the current market price at which a security (stock, bond, etc.) is trading. It reflects the latest transaction price or the bid-ask spread in the market, driven by supply and demand, market sentiment, liquidity, and other short-term factors.
    • Value: This refers to the intrinsic value of a security, which is an estimate of its true worth based on fundamental factors like earnings, cash flows, assets, growth prospects, and risk. Value is often calculated using methods like discounted cash flow (DCF) analysis, price-to-earnings (P/E) ratios, or other valuation models.
    Key Differences:
    • Price is immediate and observable, fluctuating constantly based on market dynamics, news, or speculative trading.
    • Value is theoretical and subjective, representing what an asset is fundamentally worth, often requiring analysis to estimate.
    • Prices can deviate from value due to market inefficiencies, emotional trading (fear or greed), or external events, creating opportunities for investors (e.g., buying undervalued stocks or selling overvalued ones).
    Example in Context:
    In market profile analysis (related to your previous question), the value area reflects where the market perceives fair value based on trading activity. If a stock’s price moves significantly above or below the value area, analysts might argue it’s overpriced or underpriced relative to its perceived value, signaling potential trading opportunities.

    Analysts emphasize this distinction to encourage investors to focus on an asset’s underlying value rather than chasing short-term price movements, aligning with strategies like value investing.
     
  4. expiated

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    Market profile is discussed between 11:30 and 19:50 in the video below.

     
    Last edited: Jun 14, 2025 at 12:06 PM
  5. Another guy who thinks that he is the only one who has access to AI prompts
     
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  6. All that info and work and analysis and bets and time just to break even. You're better off just investing in the main index and spending your time pursuing a psychology degree for personal enrichment
     
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  7. wxytrader

    wxytrader

    Moving averages are meaningless.
     
  8. Meander Aimlessly someone once said ;)
     
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  9. expiated

    expiated

    Such a pessimistic outlook on life. You're on ignore.
     
  10. expiated

    expiated

    You too can go join the "Snarky Club" in the Land of Ignore.