French schools ban the use of mummy and daddy

Discussion in 'Politics' started by traderob, Feb 17, 2019.

  1. traderob

    traderob

  2. piezoe

    piezoe

    This amendment hasn't passed the French Senate yet. Whether it does or not should not be considered a big deal. What is a big deal is that French schools are great schools. Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France! I have close friends whose son attends a school in the U.S. whose curriculum is approved by the French Ministry of Education, and it is a Wonderful School!
     
  3. Absolutely beyond words
    Seriously how fucked up are liberals going to get? Everyday is another full speed train wreck of chaos for the lunatic left.
     
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  4. Typical lefty academic view that the goal of American schools should be to turn Americans into the French.

    Apparently you want a country where all the men look like Beto and Macron and sit down when they pee. We know they would have your vote.

    Good to see that with the yellow vests out in the streets trying to get their country to focus on something other than the social experiments of the Paris elite, that the elite are looking at this number 1/number2 parent horseshit. I am sure that is a big issue with the yellow vests.
     
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  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    France ranks BELOW the U.S. in EVERY Education Ranking

    Let's start with OECD Reading and Math

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    The comprehensive 40 top Education Systems in the World. U.S. is 14th. France is 23rd

    The full list of the top 40 educational systems in the world:
    1. South Korea
    2. Japan
    3. Singapore
    4. Hong Kong
    5. Finland
    6. The United Kingdom
    7. Canada
    8. The Netherlands
    9. Ireland
    10. Poland
    11. Denmark
    12. Germany
    13. Russia
    14. The United States
    15. Australia
    16. New Zealand
    17. Israel
    18. Belgium
    19. Czech Republic
    20. Switzerland
    21. Norway
    22. Hungary
    23. France
    24. Sweden
    25. Italy
    26. Austria
    27. Slovenia
    28. Portugal
    29. Spain
    30. Bulgaria
    31. Romania
    32. Chile
    33. Greece
    34. Turkey
    35. Thailand
    36. Columbia
    37. Argentina
    38. Brazil
    39. Mexico
    40. Indonesia
    https://www.master-and-more.eu/en/top-40-education-systems-in-the-world/
     
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  6. TJustice

    TJustice

    14th in the world competing against those homogeneous societies at the top.

    I think our schools must be doing great... considering how much of a burden we are putting on schools. For instance 1 in 8 children in our CA school system parents are illegals. https://edsource.org/2017/1-in-8-children-in-california-schools-have-an-undocumented-parent/580621

    I read it closer to 20 percent in other studies.

    This is not to put down intelligence... but if your parents did not finish school and you don't speak english at home... and you have to worry about whether parents are going to be able to stay in the country learning and doing well on tests is going to be tough.

    If you want better stats... one of the easy fixes is obvious.
    Its so wrong to me that lefties put down our systems - they and the establishment republicans policy of unfettered immigration causes a big part of the issues our society has when you look at stats. We don't have to spend more... we need to let our citizens and our institutions catch up with a pause on immigration.

    By the way similarly republicans are annoying when the blame democrats for the budget. That gripe is not legitimate anymore.
     
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  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    Not exactly. Check your chart again. However I don't believe there is much, if any, significant difference between any of these mid rank countries in these particular achievement scores. Certainly no significant difference between the U.S. and France. In this particular set of measurements, France ranks insignificantly below the U.S. in Reading and Science achievement and slightly above the U.S. in Math achievement. My comments are in reference to other aspects of the curriculum and general approach to public education than what is being measured here.

    The scores for PISA evaluations of educational achievement are adjusted so that the average score is 500 and the standard deviation is +-100. 5 points or less I consider to be insignificant. Between 5 and 10 points as barely significant.
     
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I have never heard any parent in France who sends their kid to public school say "Every kid should be so lucky as to get to go to school in France!" BTW - I worked in France in the early 90s.

    I have met parents (mainly expatriates) who are very happy with the private schools their children went to in France (e.g. the "American school of Paris") -- but these schools are a very different experience than the French public schools.
     
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  9. piezoe

    piezoe

    To be specific, I would think the U.S. should strive to achieve a level of education at which the number of citizens that reason as you seem to is minimized. I realize that a zero level of your particular kind of ignorance is unachievable, but certainly minimizing such an intellectual deficit among the population is worthy of a concerted effort.
     
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  10. Keep bringing in people from central america and we will continue to achieve the national educational level to which you aspire.

    And please, before the idiot brigade here rises to present the old tripe about immigrants being better educated than the current population, make sure that the data distinguishes between legal and illegal immigrants. We know your tricks.
     
    #10     Feb 18, 2019