Forecast SPX re 2023 Year End

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Nine_Ender, Jan 2, 2023.

  1. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Guessing where markets will end up in a year is always difficult but let's put some guesses down. A fair number of traders are already talking a 30% down year I'm expecting a moderate up year with the TSX outperforming the SPX.

    My forecast is SPX closes at 4220 ( up 10% ) and the TSX at 22097 ( up 14% ).

    Bragging rights if the bears on here can not only call a correction/crash but determine if it sticks by year end.
     
  2. rb7

    rb7

    My little finger tells me +5% for the SPX.

    But any high vol will be welcome.
     
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  3. USDJPY

    USDJPY

    Why not try forecasting the move of the ES at 9:30? Can make more money if you do it day after day.
     
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  4. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Longer term forecasts can help set a framework for effective trading with an eye on overall risk management. I use the SPX as a proxy on what broader markets may do short term and likely turns in broader markets. I haven't had US index exposure since 2019 except for maybe a dozen day trades the longest being a 3 day hold on AMZN. I might have been short QQQ for two days at one point.

    From 2010-2019 I was a passive "investor" just swinging in and out of broader market exposure ( US or Cdn ) based on long term technicals. It worked well for me with minimal risk of capital. Built up a nice capital base with minimal time spent. What I took out of that is a long term chart on NA indexes is really useful.
     
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  5. Businessman

    Businessman

    -15% at year end (but the low for the year could be much lower )

    Multi year bear markets happen on average about once every 20 to 25 years.

    One is about due, and given how inflated the bubble was i think this current bear market will contain at least 2 down years.

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  6. I think the FED will crash the markets.

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  7. Shax

    Shax

    Here are the 2023 forecasts of the U.S. stock markets, based on the work of Edgar Lawrence Smith who said in the 1930s that the stock market followed a 10-year cycle, that is, each year tended to repeat the behavior corresponding to the annuality of the previous decade.
    In other words, if you averaged all the years ending with 1 (2001, 1991, 1981 and so on), you would get a forecast for 2011. For 2012, one would make a similar average, using only 2002, 1992, 1982 and so on:

    https://thepatternsite.com/JanForecast23.html


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    Of course, if the Market were to have such a trend, trading would definitely be easier. :)
     
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  8. Predictions aren't worth much, but I believe a recession may bring down earnings in 2023. My guess is SPX will trade near 2880 by EOY.
     
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  9. gkishot

    gkishot

    Averaging all the years how far back?
     
  10. Shax

    Shax

    Larry Williams also uses the 10-year cycle for his forecasts, and in his book: The Right Stock at the Right Time, he wrote that Gaubis and Smith observed the repetition of this 10-year pattern already since the early 1900s, and their analysis had started in 1854.
     
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