Feds file voting fraud charges against 19 foreign nationals

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 24, 2018.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Thought the left stated that non-citizens never vote in elections. Glad to see they are finally cracking down on this nonsense. The Wilmington N.C. jurisdiction is the first to pursue charges in our state. Supposedly they are about to file the same charges against 76 more people according the evening news.

    Feds file voting fraud charges against 19 foreign nationals
    https://www.wral.com/feds-file-voting-fraud-charges-against-19-foreign-nationals/17792928/

    Federal voting fraud charges were filed in Wilmington, N.C., Friday against 19 foreign nationals who allegedly voted in the 2016 election. A 20th person was charged with aiding and abetting one of the 19 in falsely claiming U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote.

    The 19 were from Mexico, the Dominican Republic, Nigeria, the Philippines, Panama, Grenada, Guyana, Japan, El Salvador, Italy, Haiti, Korea, Germany and Poland. They ranged in age from 26 to 71.

    Nine of the defendants were charged with making a false claim of citizenship in order to register to vote. Eight were charged with "voting by an alien."

    One of the 19 was charged with fraud and misuse of visas, permits and other documents as well as with voting by an alien.

    One foreign national, from the Dominican Republic, was charged on Aug. 14 and pleaded guilty to two counts of passport fraud and voting by an alien. Ramon Esteban Paez-Jerez, 58, voted in Wake County in 2016.

    Paez-Jerez was one of three foreign nationals who allegedly voted in Wake County in 2016. Others voted in Columbus, Cumberland, Wilson, Washington, Johnston and Beaufort counties.

    Paez-Jerez first came to the United States in the 1980s. He was deported, then returned using a fake identity. In 1999, under that assumed identity, Paez-Jerez became a citizen and subsequently obtained a U.S. passport.

    Paez-Jerez faces 11 years in prison and a $350,000 fine. He is to be sentenced Dec. 11 in New Bern.

    The maximum penalties for the others range from six to 26 years in prison, with maximum fines of $100,000 to $350,000.

    At least nine of the defendants were longtime legal permanent residents of the United States. One, Dieudonne Soifils of Haiti, has been a legal permanent resident since 1976. Two have been legal permanent residents since the mid-1980s and two since 1990.

    Two of the defendants had applied for but were denied citizenship. One of them was not denied citizenship till 2017, after the election.

    According to the U.S. Attorney's Office, the cases are being investigated by the newly created Document and Benefit Fraud Task Force in the Eastern District of North Carolina.

    North Carolina elections officials reported in 2017 that they had found that about 500 ineligible voters cast ballots in the 2016 general election – not enough to change the outcome of any race. The vast majority of those voters have a felon in their criminal history. Under North Carolina law, active felons are not allowed to vote. That report did not include any evidence of fraud, and many of those who voted claimed to be confused about their eligibility.

    About 4.8 million votes were cast in North Carolina in the 2016 general election.

    The North Carolina General Assembly has voted to place a proposed constitutional amendment on the ballot this November that would require voters to show a photo ID.
     
  2. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    so it sounds like 8 voted and a few got into the voter rolls somehow (claiming citizenship for instance). I seemed to recall being able to get into the voter rolls when applying for a driver's license in a few districts I've resided. Wonder how many of these people just checked the wrong box and made it in there somehow.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/24/us/north-carolina-illegal-voters.html

    The indictments were announced as the state’s Republican-dominated Legislature is raising claims of voter fraud in an attempt to win approval of a constitutional amendment on the November ballot that would require all voters to produce approved IDs before casting ballots. The state’s previous voter ID requirement was struck down by a federal court in 2016 as an attempt to depress turnout by African-American voters.

    In most cases, the indictments announced on Friday gave few details of the circumstances under which the foreign citizens registered and cast ballots, and lawyers for the defendants were neither identified nor quickly reachable. In most though not all similar situations reported elsewhere, noncitizens have said that they were confused about their eligibility to vote.

    Of the nine legal permanent residents named in the charges, five had gained that status in 1990 or earlier, and one of them — Dieudonne Soifils, 71, originally from Haiti — had been a legal resident since May 1976. His indictment said that he had cast ballots in elections in 2012 and 2016.
     
  3. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    19 out of 4.8 million,that definitely proves yalls massive voter fruad accusations lol
     
  4. Cuddles

    Cuddles

    I wonder how many get disenfranchised from voter ID laws ;)?
     
  5. Bid to close voting sites in mostly black US county blocked


    A county elections board in Georgia on Friday blocked an effort to close most polling places in a largely black county ahead of the November election, where a Democrat is vying to become the first U.S. African-American female governor, a county spokesman said.

    The Randolph County board of elections voted 2-0 to make no changes to voting precincts, a spokesman said in a phone interview.

    Both Stacey Abrams, the Democratic nominee who is seeking to become the nation’s first black female governor, and Republican candidate Brian Kemp, who is white and serves as Georgia’s secretary of state, had urged county officials to drop the plan.

    The proposal had been submitted by an elections consultant who had donated money to Kemp’s campaign, according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. It said that county officials who had hired the consultant in April to work on election management fired him on Wednesday.

    “We won! Voter suppression proposal in Randolph County abandoned,” Kristen Clarke, president of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said on Twitter following the vote. “This is a victory for African-American voters who, too often, are subject to voting discrimination and racial animus.”

    The proposal would have closed seven of the rural county’s nine polling sides because they were not wheelchair accessible, which board members said was a violation of federal disabilities law. Some 60 percent of the rural county’s 7,100 residents are black.
     
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  6. GWB is the sort of guy who buys a penis pump and is certain it seem a bit bigger. Microscopic differences can become a compelling obsession for the desperate.

    19 is what percentage of "3 million", Trump's number?

    Since hypocrite has lost all meaning by over use, Democrats need some new words for pieces of shit who try to create wedges out of nothing as the cons always do.
     
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  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Oh Slarti... you seem to be the only one in this forum who needs a penis pump.

    However I don't know if they even have a model that small.
     
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  8. exGOPer

    exGOPer

    That's a strawman, what the left said which Bush's commission on voter fraud proved is that the instances are so low (like the article you are pointing to) that additional measures have a diminishing effect and many Republicans as its being proven in Georgia right now use these low probability events to prevent a huge number of Democrats from exercising their voting right.

    19+76 is such a low number and most of it was unintentional rather than with an intention to change the outcome which is impossible. The system caught them which proves the bogus GOP narrative.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So how many election cycles did they vote in before being caught? It appears some may have voted for decades.

    Good to see they finally stepped up and started to enforce the law. Let's hope they continue to make progress indicting illegal voters across the country to ensure the integrity of our elections.
     
  10. Ex-cons who thought the were allowed and people who are just mistaken. Honestly today, words fail me with the Molly Tibbs murder. Trolls and political sociopaths and morons trying to beat the drum into a frenzy.
     
    #10     Aug 25, 2018