FCM - which one is the safest? or largest = safest?

Discussion in 'Retail Brokers' started by Spectre2007, Feb 12, 2017.

  1. Which FCM is the safest?..

    Technically if there is compliance with regulations, a FCM shouldn't fail. Is the safest, the largest? Not sure if this is valid either. Look at the issues with MF Global, and FXCM in regards to regulations and compliance.

    What are the requirements in forming your own FCM?

    A IB introducing broker seems easier, but still have to rely on FCM to park and clear funds/trades.


    Chris
     
  2. xandman

    xandman

    The is an old list. Make note of the large, traditional FCMs on the list highlighted in bold. It is very difficult to get the best rates going to them directly. Most will need an IB, especially retail traders.

    Special note on ADM, aka ADMIS, is backed by the one of the largest agricultural firms in the world.

    If anybody can get RJO at .65c starting commission, pls send me a PM with the IB name.

    *Rankings of FCM's by Customer Segregated Equity -April 30, 2011
    - Non Broker Deals Only - (Source: CFTC)
    - Ranked by Customer Segregated Funds*

    JP MORGAN FUTURES INC: $17,628,775,299
    PRUDENTIAL BACHE COMMODITIES LLC: $3,400,585,000
    RJ OBRIEN ASSOCIATES LLC: $2,815,862,733
    ADM INVESTOR SERVICES INC: $2,797,845,347
    ROSENTHAL COLLINS GROUP LLC: $1,832,840,80
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    BNP PARIBAS COMMODITY FUTURES INC: $1,609,147,270
    FCSTONE LLC: $1,164,476,821
    PENSON FUTURES: $864,074,811
    MCVEAN TRADING & INVESTMENTS LLC: $845,290,957
    MACQUARIE FUTURES USA INC: $813,691,662
    PEREGRINE FINANCIAL GROUP INC: $511,339,095
    ADVANTAGE FUTURES LLC: $430,207,984
    ENSKILDA FUTURES LTD: $388,754,287
    RAND FINANCIAL SERVICES INC: $327,307,200
    TENCO INC: $305,910,159
    TRILAND USA INC: $214,973,309
    COUNTRY HEDGING INC: $142,691,536
    CROSSLAND LLC: $116,808,770
    DORMAN TRADING LLC: $101,031,944
    MBF CLEARING CORP: $93,507,639
    OPEN E CRY LLC: $90,434,711
    YORK BUSINESS ASSOCIATES LLC: $72,923,324
    VELOCITY FUTURES LLC: $71,700,880
    IRONBEAM INC: $62,508,657
    MAREX NORTH AMERICA LLC: $59,730,683
    CUNNINGHAM COMMODITIES LLC: $53,917,287
    LINN GROUP THE: $42,285,565
    FRONTIER FUTURES INC: $34,390,668
    STERLING COMMODITIES CORP: $31,366,238
    BNY MELLON CLEARING LLC: $31,161,559 <===Too Big to Fail.
    AMP GLOBAL CLEARING LLC: $28,594,453
    CX CAPITAL MARKETS LLC: $26,591,840
    MID CO COMMODITIES INC: $25,551,108
    IKON GLOBAL MARKETS INC: $16,928,151
    FRIEDBERG MERCANTILE GROUP INC: $11,350,990
    EAGLE MARKET MAKERS INC: $2,201,733
    STRAITS FINANCIAL LLC: $1,443,739
    GLOBAL FUTURES & FOREX LTD: $803,063
    IG MARKETS INC: $156,289
     
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  3. Handle123

    Handle123

    I learned my lesson with Lind Waldock, best to spread it around.
     
  4. xandman

    xandman

    Yes, anything is possible (and more probable) with derivatives.

    I do not even have a concept of the various legal maneuvers by which customers of the blue chip firms may be left holding the bag.

    You can use T-bills as margin collateral, which are registered to your name, as a form of protection. Is this correct?
     
  5. Overnight

    Overnight

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  6. Even large firms can get into trouble if parent company engages in speculative derivatives exposure. Seems best to stick to firms that don't diversify. Diversification leads to exposure of risk in other ways.
     
  7. pdp

    pdp

    my 2cents... look at the size of State Street. the size of assets they sit on represents about 11%+ of all assets worldwide. needless to say, they are huge, making even outfits like FCStone or RJO look like dwarves.

    the reason i mention State Street is because they own Currenex and FXConnect.

    that being said, Currenex is well connected to a wide pool of liquidity but offers any broker offering it as a platform the ability to B-book client flow.
     
  8. why would you look at segregated client equity. i would look at excess net capital as a start but you also need to look at the equity segment capital position of a company
     
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  9. Sig

    Sig

    Since PEREGRINEFINANCIAL GROUP, aka PFGBest is on this list it is indeed old. It also demonstrates the limits of such lists!
     
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  10. oversea

    oversea

    That's $0.65 per leg, not including exchange fees, right?
    Do you specifically not want to go to them directly?
     
    #10     Feb 13, 2017