Everyone in the White House considers Trump an idiot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by UsualName, Dec 14, 2018.

  1. UsualName

    UsualName

    People here praise Trump as some genius, when in fact he is some moron that was born rich and doesn’t even have the good sense to ask for a regular men’s haircut at tha barber shop.

    I’m sure many will continue to take the word of the Fox News propagandists but if you ask “the best and the brightest” that work with him and actually see him in action the man is a complete idiot.

    And if you support him, what does that make you?

    http://nymag.com/intelligencer/amp/...8Cxf26rS6_SFVqMsh7Q&__twitter_impression=true

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  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I will note that most of the "quotes" put forward in the Woodward book (being quoted in the 3 month old article) about Trump staff members are usually found out to be fabricated and denied by the supposed source.
     
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  3. UsualName

    UsualName

    Like Trump denied knowing about paying off his hookers? That was fabricated too, right?
     
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  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    i have already stated that this is an area where Trump has exposure. But based on the John Edwards situation the worst Trump will get is an FEC fine.
     
  5. UsualName

    UsualName

    Life pro tip: If you go into business with a guy named Pecker, be prepared to get fucked.
     
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  6. piezoe

    piezoe

    No kidding. Really now. :rolleyes:
     
  7. piezoe

    piezoe

    I believe I heard an attorney say yesterday that the Edwards case was different. Based on the article I've given a link to, it would seem that Edwards was not his own worst enemy, making it far more difficult for the prosecution to gain a conviction -- they failed, whereas the case against Trump has at least the outward appearance of being iron clad.

    The Cohen testimony, the AMI testimony, the Tapes, and Trumps own statements all incriminate him. It would seem to be a prosecutor's dream case. But, as we know, if there is eventually a jury trial, anything can happen.
    see https://abovethelaw.com/2018/12/sto...mpaign-finance-fraud-with-john-edwardss-case/

    I heard an attorney discuss tolling statutes of limitations in the case of Presidents being accused of a crime while in office.. I would have thought that tolling of statutes for any time served as President would be just a formality, and that any court would rule they should be tolled if the President can not be indicted. But there is no law that says the president can not be indicted, and thus, and apparently, this clouds the issue of tolling. It is further clouded by there being no precedent to fall back on. The question of tolling would also seem to be bound up in the issue that Laurence Tribe brought up. (See below.)

    There is this in Article II of the Constitution.

    Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

    I heard Prof. Laurence Tribe give the opinion that Impeachment was the means of formally removing the President from his office, but not intended to substitute for the normal process of indictment and trial, which in a sense could be the result were a President to be impeached, tried, convicted, removed from office and then pardoned before he/she was indicted. He seemed to be arguing that it was never intended by the Founders that a President could not be indicted while in office, and that to prevent the possibility of placing the President above the law it was necessary that the President be indicted while in office. To me, he seemed to implying that the President must be indicted and tried before he is pardoned, if he is to be pardoned at all, and that would seem to me to have a very pleasing logic behind it. Such a viewpoint, however, would cast a shadow on the Nixon Pardon. Nixon was pardoned pre-emptively by Ford.!!!

    There is also this, where various instances of impeachment are discussed.
    https://constitution.findlaw.com/article2/annotation18.html
     
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  8. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    First in the thread to defend him,but you didn't vote for him though:rolleyes:
     
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    I am just here to separate the facts from the fiction put forward by many posters.... you being one of the primary culprits.
     
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  10. Everyone who starts threads about months old nonsense is an idiot
     
    #10     Dec 14, 2018
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