Early Yield Strategy?

Discussion in 'Options' started by languinethesupercattrader, Jan 15, 2025.

  1. Hi All,

    First post here. I had a question about the feasibility of a vanilla strategy.

    Would a Bear Call Spread + Long stock be a decent short term strategy. Lets say 14-42 DTE.

    Goal is to try and grab a few extra bips within an expected move, while still having upside for large moves. Essentially trying to grab the premium out of a covered call while still being bullish and keeping upside.

    Take MSFT Feb 14 Exp. Current price 425.8

    Short call 445 for $5.15 (Delta = .292)
    Long call 455 for $2.96

    I understand that once MSFT crosses 445(+prem) I underperform, but would this strategy win more than it loses?


    Would love some thoughts on if this is a decent strategy, what pitfalls it has, and what other ways there are to implement something like this.

    thanks
     
  2. 2rosy

    2rosy

    risk reversal
     
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  3. Sorry what? I'm not talking about a collar in this. I'm not purchasing a put to limit downside, i'm selling a call above purchase price, and buying a call above that. Trying to grab extra yield within an expected move.
     
  4. Q.E.D.

    Q.E.D.

     
  5. 2rosy

    2rosy

    you're long underlying and short a call vertical? isn't that the same profile as a risk reversal (short put, long call)? why not just do a covered call?
     
  6. VOLdemort

    VOLdemort

    Long stock - 90C = short the synthetic 90P. Short synthetic 90P + 100C = 90P/100C bull risk reversal.
     
  7. Hi VOLdemort and 2rosy,

    I really appreciate you both taking the time to respond to my question, and see how a risk reversal is equivalent payoff wise, and is more efficient from a capital perspective, so thank you.

    To answer why not just do a CC. My situation is unique in the sense that I must own the underlying, but I don’t necessarily want to give up all the upside. Say I own SPY, want to have a better than market return up to 3% in the month, will forego 3-5% in a month, but if it shoots past 5% i’d like to continue participating.