Dumbest thing you ever did in trading

Discussion in 'Trading' started by wxytrader, Jun 30, 2024.

  1. I had a spreadsheet that would track with one of those sparkline column charts how much premium I give back on any given trade. So if I collect $1,200 in premium it would show a full bar, and then I close it for $300 it would shrink down showing I had collected $900 as I had given back -$300 of the $1,200.

    Well I was running an iron condor on TOS and it was showing the position at -2500, so I was thinking that was off of what I collected because of my spreadsheet. In my defense the way they tally positions is pretty ambiguous imo, they should have 2 columns, cost to open, and cost to close, so it should have been showing -$4000 to open, and $6500 to close, instead of putting them together as -$2500 pnl...but I digress. So when I closed the position, I thought I was still up $1500 ($4000 + $-2500) not down $-2500 lol. The worst part is me calling in trying to tell them their accounting is off...and that my net liq value should be higher until I realized mid sentence what I had done. :)

    I did get to save face however when I was down a large amount on a BITO call during the ftx scandal, and one of the phone agents patronizes me by suggesting I open a practice account and learn about stop losses lol. So anyway I said to him "why would I want to close at a loss?" Then after I recovered with profits when Bitcoin rallied which I was expecting...the next time I got them I'm like. "Hey remember that BITO call? Yeah there's a reason why I'm sitting on this side of the phone and you're sitting on that side of the phone." Lol
     
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  2. tomkat22

    tomkat22

    I decided to play a Game Of Chicken with the market. It won.
     
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  3. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    I stopped.
     
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  4. Handle123

    Handle123

    I had an opinion for last time, I had allowed a $300 stop loss to be cancelled turn into a $10,000 loss. Now all my opinions be last after what my systems dictate. Opinions can't be backtested well but I have recorded them for 20 years and only correct 5% of the time. Once we accept our flaws, life much easier.
     
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  5. Tokenz

    Tokenz

    Sorry I don't have a story for you right now, because nothing I do in trading is dumb...
     

  6. What was the symbol? What was your avg price? :)
     
  7. rb7

    rb7

    If you have a trading plan and follow it, the only way you could do dumb thing is to have a dumb plan. Otherwise, you are just following your plan.

    But your point is not about dumbest things done, but about having stop loss is a dumb strategy...again. Just using different words to mean the same thing over and over....
     
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  8. My example of my dumbest thing had nothing to do with a stop loss. ????

    Actually, my dumbest thing could also be when I bought 5,000 shares of a company when I meant to buy $5,000 worth of shares...But being stubborn and dumb instead of closing, I held it for a loss AND even averaged down! A month or so later they were the target of a buyout...boom 70k. :)
     
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  9. The_hero

    The_hero

    buying a gap up without a stop loss. buying just before earnings come out. buying right after earnings in the after hours trading before the conference call.
     
  10. I think we're missing the point here. This isn't about questionable strategies.. :)

    Any one of your scenarios could have worked out in your favor... This is about stuff that is just plain dumb.
     
    #10     Jun 30, 2024