Do you trade for an income or for a compound effect?

Discussion in 'Trading' started by danielc1, Dec 30, 2020.

  1. danielc1

    danielc1

    What do you prefer? I know a lot of people that want to trade for an income and a very few that trade for a compound return on their investments.

    Or do you do both?

    Do you think you have another skill set needed for income trading and/or going for compound returns?
     
  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    You can’t compound and trade for income. The definition of compounding is that you use your gains to generate more gains. The definition of income is you take the income out to spend. Any money you take out isnt being used to generate more gains.
     
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  3. sef88

    sef88

    I guess the best to achieve best of both world is by having a diversified basket of strategies to generate smoother return streams. With smooth return streams, you can treat it like as an ATM to withdraw at periodic frequency. What's left undrawn, can be used for compounding.
     
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  4. virtusa

    virtusa

    I do 3 things:
    1. I do compound till a certain amount is reached
    2. I take sometimes money to spent when I want
    3. I withdraw money to put somewhere else if the amount becomes too big. Invest somewhere else or open another trading account with another broker to spread the risk of insolvency of the broker. Learned that after being client at Refco years ago.
    So you can compound and trade for income at the same time. I do not compound ALL.
     
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  5. themickey

    themickey

    I trade for compound effect, however as trading pays for living expenses there is continual money being pulled out the account nearly as quick as it goes in.
    The stocks I trade, the majority are small cap growth types and pay no dividend.
    Trading methods continually morph, once upon a time I would hit quite large size, these days I go in small but a large number of positions but being very selective on quality and entries and holding longer.
     
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  6. smallfil

    smallfil

    The approaches are different when you are seeking income (swing trading) vs wealth (trend following). Nothing stops you from doing both if you understand the market structure and how to approach it properly, paying attention to risk management and position sizing in addition to using stop losses. I trade for income since, I am retired but, now have alloted a portion of my trading capital to wealth building (trend following). Both approaches are similar in that they seek to take advantage of the trend. One, uses short term trends, the other uses longer term trends.
     
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Perhaps the original question is poorly worded:

    maybe he meant “do you compound your returns or do you sweep your gains out (keep your trading capital constant).”

    if that’s the question, the factors that would
    Determine if you sweep or compound would be: 1. Is your strategy is scalable; 2. Is your strategy too negatively skewed.
     
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  8. sef88

    sef88

    If it's negatively skewed, you should definitely withdraw from it periodically.
     
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  9. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    That is correct
     
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  10. danielc1

    danielc1

    I believe it is a choice if you go for an income or compound and it should not be dependent on your strategy. Your strategy should depend on your choice of income or compounding.

    So if it is a choice, what do you prefer?

    Do you have an example of a strategy that is negatively skewed that would make it worth to trade it? I believe every strategy that is worth trading must have a positive skewed reward/risk.
     
    #10     Dec 30, 2020
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