Did Obamacare kill its First Ebola Patient?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Oct 8, 2014.

  1. jem

    jem

    Duncan probably left Africa for the medical care offered by America.
    When he got to the hospital he was vomiting according to CNN.

    The article from CNN makes it clear the hospital knew he was from Monrovia Liberia and he presented with symptoms of Ebola... (the hospital seems to have downplayed the vomiting and called it abdominal pain)

    Is it possible the hospital did not take him in because of some interaction with Obamacare and Medicaid cuts and Texas?

    Its seems to me that if a doctor saw him... he would have thought Ebola? Doctors have to be fairly smart.





    http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/...omiting-When-Initially-Released-from-Hospital

    CNN notes, however, that his symptoms were not only clearly indicative of a grave problem, but that they were precisely the sort of symptoms that make an Ebola patient contagious. Duncan, according to a friend, arrived at the hospital suffering from a fever and vomiting, but the hospital designated symptom instead as "abdominal pain":

    His friend said that Duncan had a fever and vomiting during this first visit to the Dallas hospital. The hospital, in a statement Wednesday, said he had a "low grade fever and abdominal pain." [...]

    "His condition did not warrant admission," the hospital said. "He also was not exhibiting symptoms specific to Ebola."
    Ebola is exclusively contagious, to the best knowledge of medical experts, to those exposed to the bodily fluids of an Ebola patient, whether sweat, blood, or vomit. The difference between vomiting and "abdominal pain" in the difference between exposing up to 100 people in the Texas area to the Ebola virus.
     
  2. dbphoenix

    dbphoenix

    Yes. It's all Obama's fault.
     
  3. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I hate Obamacare as much as the next person, but to say it killed Duncan is ridiculous. It was poor training that exacerbated what is the world's worst virus infection, that killed Duncan. End of story.
     
  4. Max E.

    Max E.

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  5. jem

    jem

    My speculation hinges on the concept, there is no emergency room in a big city is stupid yet alone that stupid.

    I know doctors and nurses.
    I am married to an advance practice nurse and used to be friends with a cadre of ER docs.
    Yes some nurses can be new and maybe not even smart. But those nurses are not making decisions in emergency rooms.

    The fact they took the note down as abdominal pain.... instead of fever and vomiting is very telling.
    No way they did not know this guy was a risk for ebola or some other hemmoragic disease from Africa. The guy stated he was from Monrovia and I am sure he had an African accent.

    No doctor in an ER is that dumb. It takes time and drive to become a doctor. ER doctors are hard chargers they don't wind up there by mistake... they are usually fairly young driven and good.
     
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  6. jem

    jem

    Ask doctors what Obmacare is doing or better yet...observe them. Iin California they can't get sufficient doctors to join the networks.

     
  7. jem

    jem

    Fundamentally third worlding America.


     
  8. jem

    jem

    my initial post was about 10:12

    This post was posted at 10:28 at Breitbart.


    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2014/10/08/Dallas Commissioner-Blames-Race-Insurance-for-Ebola-Patients-Care

    Dallas County Commissioner John Wiley Price accused Texas Health Presbyterian Hospital of discriminating against Dallas Ebola patient Thomas Duncan because of his race and lack of insurance on Tuesday.

    “We know what happened at Presbyterian happened, and it’s historically what has happened in this community, if a person who looks like me shows up without insurance, they don't get the same treatment” Price said.

    Texas Health Resources, the network of hospitals that Texas Health Presbyterian is a part of, released a statement claiming “he [Duncan] was treated the way any other patient would have been treated, regardless of nationality or ability to pay for care. We have a long history of treating a multicultural community in this area.”

    WFAA, Dallas’ ABC affiliate, reported that the hospital “has not been cited for turning away patients without insurance.”

    Follow Ian Hanchett on Twitter @IanHanchett
     
  9. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    So it sounds like John Wiley Price is black.

    So yes it must be discrimination. Now they'll want some massive payout.

    And just saw a story with Sharpton again involved in NY ... he's posing for cameras.

    NEW YORK (AP) - The family of a man who died after being placed in a police chokehold has filed a notice of claim to sue the city, its police department and six officers for $75 million.

    This is where we need reform on lawsuits. Any payout to the guy should be based on what he would have expected to earn the rest of his working years. And it sure isn't $75 million.

    http://www.aol.com/article/2014/10/...kehold-death-planned/20974271/?ncid=webmail25
     
  10. DHOHHI

    DHOHHI

    And you know what .. maybe those uninsured should have to wait a bit longer. Before my Dad passed away we had a couple times taking him to the ER. And what did we observe? A fair number of people who appeared to be uninsured using the ER for non-emergency treatment. One included a mother whose daughter had a cold. But I guess some people expect they can get something (treatment) whether they are paying or not and at the same time adversely impact those who have paid for health insurance their entire lives.
     
    #10     Oct 8, 2014