Destriero/Atticus Vol Journals.

Discussion in 'Options' started by TheBigShort, Jun 16, 2018.

  1. It depends on the timeframe of your trade whether to go with a call or a call fly; the fly doesn't have as much delta; it loses value past 80; and the call sells for more for the simple fact that it's worth more - if it wasn't a fair difference in price, it would be easy money to sell the relatively overpriced call and buy the relatively underpriced fly; but wait: that amounts to 2 short 80's and 1 long 90. Why would that be a good strategy?
    I like that flies can be used to exploit IV strike price contango though!
     
    #71     Sep 13, 2018
  2. ironchef

    ironchef

    After reading up on this fly thread I tried to model a few cases to see the interplay of various strikes, underlying and IV. The analysis was too complicated and time consuming for me as I only have Excel to work with.

    For ATM, 132/231 seemed directional, 121's more or less delta neutral? So, I still need a good opinion (of delta, gamma, vega, or IV) to make money.

    Conclusion: No free lunch for us retails.:(
     
    #72     Sep 17, 2018
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    #73     Sep 17, 2018
  4. SumZero

    SumZero

    I suggest you install ToS demo. You don't need an account and allows you to do pretty decent stuff. Works for 60 days.
     
    #74     Sep 17, 2018
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  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    Thank you for your suggestion. I will try it out. I did install IB, tried that for a while but decided not to - old habit dies hard.

    I have been with Schwab for years, migrated to their OptionsXpress platform then back to Schwab... Can ToS do more than Schwab's StreetSmartEdge and StreetSmart Central?
     
    #75     Sep 17, 2018
  6. ToS has all the option analytical tools you need to trade almost all op strats.
     
    #76     Sep 17, 2018
  7. destriero

    destriero

    TOS/TDA's desktop app is decent. IMO the iOS app is the best available. I would like to see the phone app stop the error code when building verticals, but otherwise it's very solid. On the desktop; allow for stressing of vol x strike.
     
    #77     Sep 17, 2018
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  8. ironchef

    ironchef

    :banghead::banghead::banghead:

    One of you taught me how to program in VBA in Excel and that helped some but it is still very cumbersome. Perhaps I should go back to Fortran? :(
     
    #78     Sep 17, 2018
  9. Would be nice if you could program and create a cool video game but if you use ToS analyzer you can easily do FLYS and similar vol trades.
     
    #79     Sep 17, 2018