Democrat Policies Set LA on Fire

Discussion in 'Politics' started by echopulse, Jan 9, 2025.

  1. Congratulations, Dems! Your incompetence is literally on fire, and the whole city gets to choke on the smoke. But hey, at least you’ve got your priorities straight: virtue-signaling over actually governing. Bravo!

    From slashing firefighter budgets to draining record rainfall into the ocean, LA's Democratic leadership is failing its people. Welcome to the chaos they created.



     
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  2. it’ll be interesting to see how many of those enlightened, self-righteous libtards—whose homes are now nothing more than ash and regret—will finally wake up and realize how utterly brilliant their beloved regulations and bureaucratic red tape really are. Maybe, just maybe, after they’ve spent months drowning in permits, fees, and the glorious inefficiency of their own ideological utopia, they’ll have a moment of clarity and see the light of common sense. But who are we kidding? They are retarded so they will keep voting libtard.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    As an additional note...

    The list of the top 15 states most impacted by wildfires in 2022 (with the top state at the bottom):
    • Nevada
    • Kentucky
    • Nebraska
    • Kansas
    • Arizona
    • Montana
    • Florida
    • Washington
    • California
    • Oklahoma
    • Oregon
    • Idaho
    • Texas
    • New Mexico
    • Alaska
    How many of these are run by Democrats again?
     
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  4. notagain

    notagain

    Layered incompetence is malice, fire I bring you to burn, from a song in 1968.
     
  5. Fire does not give a shit what party you are from.....right weather conditions lead to wildfires.

    Now if you want to say the Dem mayor underfunded the fire department, I need to know if the fire department is even capable at current levels of fighting 16000 acres of fire at one time no matter the budget. Can spend out of a natural disaster so leave the politics out of it and let them boyz try and contain this.
     
  6. From the 2023-2024 to the 2024-2025 budgets, the LAFD's budget was reduced by over $17 million from $837,191,237 to $819,637,423.

    $819 million dollars for a city fire department? And you think the $17 million missing is the culprit? politics make you stupid.

    If you cannot fight fires with over $800 million in budget for a city of 3 million people, then you got a bigger problem.

    A 2% cut in the budget is why LAFD cannot fight a fire spread over 16,000 acres? because that missing $17 million is what caused them unable to fight wildfires spreading with high winds?

    Seriously......you guys let FOX dumb you down that much..

    EDIT: Mayor increased police budget by over $100 million so is she bad for backing the Blue?
     
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    It was noted that a good portion of that $17 million was for open fire department positions that nobody was hired to fill. There is a lack of interest in firefighting jobs in the city. They finally just closed the job requisitions and spent the money in other city departments.

    The LA firefighting department is just one of the departments chronically undermanned with many vacancies. Of course, the existing city firefighting employees who work tons of overtime can earn big bucks.
     
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  8. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    And now for some music...

    The roof, the roof, the roof is on fire
    (We don't need no water, let the motherf*cker burn)
    (Burn, motherf*cker, burn)


     
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  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    (taken from my previous post in 2020)

    California serves as an excellent example of how to completely fail at forest management. Oregon and Washington have the same problems.

    Let's take a look at California below...

    The forest management problems in California can only be blamed on the state. For decades they rejected federal guidance and even refused to sign a forest management agreement until 2020.

    Documents published in California recently by the state government are the best documentation of their complete failures. These documents include:

    Community Wildfire Prevention & Mitigation Report prepared by the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection (Feb 2019)

    https://assets.documentcloud.org/do...re-2019-Community-Wildfire-Prevention-and.pdf

    Improving California’s Forest and Watershed Management (California Legislative Analyst's Office) April 2018
    https://lao.ca.gov/Publications/Report/3798

    Fire on the Mountain: Rethinking Forest Management in the Sierra Nevada
    https://lhc.ca.gov/report/fire-mountain-rethinking-forest-management-sierra-nevada

    Reading these documents above provide a damning indictment of forest management in California showing that the fires can only be blamed on their poor forest management.

    Some of the key problems in the California management of forests include:
    • The rejection of performing of clearing brush and controlled burns. This was driven by the green activist movement who viewed these acts as destroying nature. Sadly politicians supported these green activists.
    • Not funding Forest Management - effectively the state failed to fund forest management even at a minimal level.
    • Limits on timber harvesting which would have reduced the combustible material. This includes the absurd environmental permitting requirements in the state.
    • Failure to have a forest management strategy beyond fire suppression as a reaction.
    In support of the above let's just take a look at one quote from the state government reports:
    “As noted above, forest management practices and policies over the past several decades have (1) imposed limitations on timber harvesting, (2) emphasized fire suppression, and (3) instituted a number of environmental permitting requirements. These practices and policies have combined to constrain the amount of trees and other growth removed from the forest. This has significantly increased the density of trees in forests across the state, and particularly the prevalence of smaller trees and brush"

    Forbes also published an article that critically outlined the forest management failures in California.

    Wildfires Caused By Bad Environmental Policy Are Causing California Forests To Be Net CO2 Emitters
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckd...-forests-to-be-net-co2-emitters/#6204bf425e30

    Only recently in 2020 California has signed a forest management strategy with the federal government and agreed to thin millions of acres of forest.

    California Signs Shared Stewardship Agreement with the U.S. Forest Service to Manage Forests
    https://www.sierrawave.net/62324-2/

    To little, too late...
    California fires: State, feds agree to thin millions of acres of forests
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/08...s-agree-to-thin-millions-of-acres-of-forests/

    The local press in California has also been critical over-time. Article outlines some history...
    Fighting fire with fire: Should California burn its forests to protect against catastrophe?

    https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/fires/article230481684.html

    Sadly another impact of California's failed forest management strategy is the forced bankruptcy of their power provider PG&E from lawsuits related to 2018 forest fires. In the opinion of many observers the fault of the forest fires is not PG&E. California put regulations in place making it very difficult to clear vegetation & limbs near low tension power lines. California also never cleared brush under high tension power lines and would not allow PG&E to do so. At some point a power line will fall to the ground in a storm or spark - this is just part of normal electrical grid operations. Fires only occur when there is uncleared combustible vegetation in the vicinity of the power line. To hold PG&E responsible to the point of bankruptcy for the actions of the state of California is absurd in my opinion, and is an example of what is wrong with government in the state of California.
     
    #10     Jan 9, 2025