Delta Hedge vs Straddle?

Discussion in 'Options' started by CyJackX, Feb 10, 2017.

  1. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    Buying a Call and shorting vs. buying a Call and a Put. They're both delta neutral, but do they perform differently?

    Does the greater cash requirement from hedging offer some advantage?
     
  2. xandman

    xandman

    Wouldn't you be paying margin on the short stock regardless if you had the cash?

    Margin is a significant cost of trading cost over time.
     
  3. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    I am using SPX and ES options.
     
  4. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    Yes; more specifically, I buy 1 SPX ATM and 1 ES, since 1 ES has half the exposure of 1 SPX.

    I see the advantage of liquidity, mainly.
     
  5. xandman

    xandman

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    The following are calculations from CME SPAN. However, firm policies will probably require holding premium paid or collected.

    I don't know why we see different margins if the positions are synthetically the same. I am on break from doing the math.
     
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  6. xandman

    xandman

    Trading that 1 long call plus short ES is a very different position. Then, you have a synthetic put. Might as well just buy a naked put.
     
  7. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    Huh? It's a synthetic straddle, not a put; it starts neutral, has upside.

    1 spx is 100$ to the index, es is 50$ to the index, so 1 spx option moves like 2 es options.
     
  8. xandman

    xandman

    I completely missed that you were using SPX options. You are correct. That is a straddle.

    Perhaps, the margin netting/offset agreement under SPAN (not sure what it is called) will provide you with the same margin savings as 1 short es + 2 long ES call margin. I don't know.

    I recalculated the SPAN, it is $256 and $371 now. Probably from the move.
     
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  9. water7

    water7

    besides margin requirement,
    stock has a fixed delta, while options has a dynamic delta, gamma, ..
    so they will have a different delta number after the underlying (and time) starts to move

    in gamma scalping, gamma is your friend
    but you need to weigh whether additional gamma worth the additional theta you are paying
    back to simple R/R
     
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  10. CyJackX

    CyJackX

    Ah, yes, didn't think about this...

    A straddle offsets both delta and gamma.
    A synthetic straddle offsets delta, but not gamma.
    A synthetic position is therefore more responsive to moves in the underlying.
    Thanks.

    P.S. Found this for anyone who's interested. https://www.discoveroptions.com/mixed/content/education/articles/longsyntheticstraddle.html
     
    #10     Feb 11, 2017