Damn you, Mr. Sharpe

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by Banjo, Dec 9, 2013.

  1. Banjo

    Banjo

    "I do realise that trading since the financial crisis has been difficult and the risk-on/risk-off environment has made it very tough to apply any meaningful portfolio strategies but that doesn’t mean hedge funds should not be accountable anymore"

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  2. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    The Sharpe ratio sucks ass. Always has, always will
     
  3. Right, we'll need to rely on the Kelly Criterion moreso.
     
  4. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    Standard deviation is the lazy man's measure of risk.
     
  5. Both the Sharpe's ratio and the continuous Kelly use the standard deviation:

    Sharpe = (mean excess return) / (standard deviation of returns)
    Continuous Kelly = (mean excess return) / (standard deviation of returns)^2

    So, in fact, one can be derived from the other one.
     
  6. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    "Continuous Kelly" sounds like an oxymoron. Trades are discrete events and the Kelly fraction can only be calculated from solution of a discrete polynomial equation of trade returns. The Kelly formulae I use look nothing like what you posted. If people are using this "continuous Kelly", small wonder they're failing and consequently hating Kelly sizing.
     
  7. This isn't true. Any reasonable (read: subject to integration, does not result in a negative ending bankroll in any case) distribution of trade returns allows the computation of a Kelly fraction. You solve:

    MAX(across f, INTEGRAL(across PMF range, (PMF*ln(EBR)))

    Where EBR is your ending bankroll: starting bankroll - (f*trade result)
    with trade results reported in units of bankrolls.


    Then trade about 1/5th the Kelly fraction.
     
  8. I'm pretty sure Kelly uses E=M(C)2
     
  9. kut2k2

    kut2k2

    All I know is that my formulae are working for me, and part of that comes from not assuming some mythical stationary distribution of trade returns for which there is no evidence. I calculate my Kelly fraction based on trades that actually happened, not trades that "might" happen.
     
    #10     Dec 10, 2013