DACA - only the dems could screw this one up- and they are

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jan 29, 2018.

  1. Fake news/cnn reports that "Trump did make some concessions" ahhh.. yeh.. like offering an additional one million, offering citizenship rather than just legal status, and flushed half his base down the toilet. Little things like that.

    And this article quotes some immigration advocate clown saying that all 22 million illegals need to be included to make the deal work. In other words 21.2 million who are not registered DACA need to be included to fix DACA.

    This is what it is like for minorities on the dem plantation. If you are being represented by the political hacks in the dem party you gonna either be on the dem plantation for a long, long time or be deported. They need issues for the mid terms and 2020 to run on and they will sell everyone down the rive to get that. No way are they going to allow anything to be resolved.

    I warned you tards, don't fuck it up. And here ya go.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/01/29/politics/daca-deal-reality/index.html
     
  2. UsualName

    UsualName

    It’s always darkest before it goes completely black.

    I feel pretty good the art of the flop will get his stupid wall across the goal line and the DACA kids too, believe it or not.
     

  3. I don't disagree with that. But your ilk will require another little trip to the woodshed- as last time with Schumer before you come around. And in regard it "always being darkest," yep, and Trump has the ability to make it plenty more dark if need be. Too bad your ilk needs to play these games.

    As I have said several times before ,though, be careful, your ilk is not all that smart and the whole thing could Shiite the bed.
     
  4. UsualName

    UsualName

    There is no upside or downside on either of these issues. Trump and the Dems would benefit from passing and moving on.

    Now saying democrats are somehow stupid doesn’t reflect well on Trump because they have been beating his ass for more than a year now.
     
  5. Don't kid yourself. Dems are scared shitless that Trump will get a settlement on DACA and get the wall too and use it as a trophy. And if the whole deal collapses, he is able to show that the dems would not take yes for an answer, proving all along that they want both legalization for the current crop of illegals and to keep em coming.

    Be careful. Your ilk could fuck this up very, very easily. And when you screwed up the last negotiation, were the Hispanics demonstrating outside the white house or outside chuck schumer's house. Be careful. Morons are running wild in the dem party moreso than ever but they are able to convince the dreamers that they are the great big powerful experienced ones. Not a good combination.
     
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  6. UsualName

    UsualName

    Right, like Trump taking credit for low unemployment, nobody believes it.

    You’re looking at this from your side only. Try looking at it from the side of good governance, then tell me Trump will either get all the credit and none of the blame.
     
  7. Oh, I doubt for a minute that Trump will not get credit for daca if a deal is passed because lefty hate does not work that way. But he will take the issue off the table and the dems will have no plan at midterms and 2020 other than working the issue of how trump wont protect the daca kids.

    If the issue gets settled, then they just continue to orbit lost in space with no message. Sure there are side issues they can work about how we are not accepting enough people from Haiti or giving immigration priority to cousins of daca kids etc. But does not create much heat and activism among either the lefties or the centrists who support daca.

    Get a full party, with full plans and full messages and some leaders who are not idiots or old recycled re-treads looking to go again. Have some pride for gawd sake. You cant just talk about Russia and the rights of Salvadoran gang members if daca is settled. Of course many of the party hacks hope to sabotage daca because it is all about them and having issues in the elections. The daca kids? - well they are just propery owned by the dem plantation to meet the mastah's needs.
     
  8. UsualName

    UsualName

    I don’t know about the democrats not having issues at the midterms. That tax bill is bigger than you think and my reading on that is showing it is not going to show up in people’s paychecks. Most people will see a marginal increase smaller than Obama’s stimulus payroll tax cut and he got no credit.

    The majority of the so called tax cut is actually the child tax credit increase, so if you don’t have children you may actually see a tax increase.

    People can feel the discord Trump has sewn into society. Some like it, most don’t. The midterms can really be a referendum on decency too.
     

  9. Most of your dem friends are among the 48% who don't pay any taxes as it is- so I don't doubt that things like doubling the standard deduction are anything you will hear them talking about.

    But you have Hillary, and Oprah, and Maxine out there leading the charge. So go get em Tiger.
     
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    And the president is among the 48% that don’t pay any taxes, too.
     
    #10     Jan 29, 2018