Czech Data Shows Moderna Covid Vax Kills More than Pfizer

Discussion in 'Chit Chat' started by jem, Jul 25, 2024.

  1. jem

    jem





    Now clowns from Canada and disinformation frauds like gwb are going to do everything to distract you from knowing the data is good... so they might try to go after Kirsch... but remember the data is good. So tell GWB and his clown friends from Canada and elsewhere to go to hell with their narrative of lies unless they bring real arguments and real discussions with respect to the data.


    So here is a link to an interesting article which discusses the Czech data and the analysis. In short the younger you were the more obvious the correlation between covid vax and mortality. Probably because as you get older there are more deaths so deaths so its hard to see the signal over the noise... and because as you get much closer to death... you were more likely to remain unvaccinated upon a doctors advice or you own thoughts.


    https://kirschsubstack.com/p/f3c408f9-5b1e-4931-93d8-a637bc573bb7

    The interpretation of the data

    Moderna kills more people than Pfizer. It’s over 50% for ages 46-69.

    Pfizer consistently kills more people than Novavax. The data is too sparse to make a definitive assessment, but it’s very highly likely that it is at least 20% or more.

    Because those who were most adversely affected were so young, this is staggering in terms of potential man years lost .

    For ages below age 46, the number of Moderna shots/deaths to compute accurate ratios diminishes.

    Even if Pfizer was 100% safe, Moderna is too unsafe to be used. Remember: this is a ratio of ACM, not a ratio of excess mortality. Big difference. A 50% higher ACM is a train wreck. Vaccines are supposed to reduce ACM, not increase it by 50%.

    The highest MRR values were for those under 71. This suggests that the absolute mortality increases caused by the shots are likely relatively independent of age. This explains why we see less of an effect for older people because their absolute MR is very high so that the vaccine mortality is a smaller percentage of their overall all-cause mortality so there is less of a difference on a percentage basis.

    These differences cannot be explained by greater vaccine efficacy against death. Even if Pfizer was 100% effective against death and Moderna was 0% effective, the greatest arguable effect size would be less than a 12% difference for those under age 54.




    https://drclarecraig.substack.com/p/m...
    Why I am backing Steve Kirsch on the Czech data The attackers are wrong

    https://drclarecraig.substack.com/p/w... Record-level data from Czech Republic FOIA proves that the Moderna vaccines increased all-cause mortality by over 50% (and the Pfizer vaccines weren't safe either)

    https://kirschsubstack.com/p/f3c408f9... Attempts to debunk my "Moderna and Pfizer are kill shots" post fail badly. I'll summarize the arguments and show you the data so you can decide for yourself

    https://kirschsubstack.com/p/attempts...
     
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2024
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    So all you got is more absurd nonsense from Steve Kirsch. We have regularly discussed this Covid misinformation super-spreader in the past -- including multiple fact checks for the bullshiat he peddles.

    Here is some background on Steve Kirsch.

    This tech millionaire went from covid trial funder to misinformation superspreader
    After boosting unproven covid drugs and campaigning against vaccines, Steve Kirsch was abandoned by his team of scientific advisers—and left out of a job.
    https://www.technologyreview.com/20...re-steve-kirsch-covid-vaccine-misinformation/
     
  3. Nine_Ender

    Nine_Ender

    Oh seriously fuck off you delusional moron. The data is clear death rates in Canada were far lower then the US and the reasons were : unvaccinated people and lack of social precautions. You were directly responsible for a lot of deaths with your rhetoric. Let that sit on your conscience til the day you die.
     
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