This clown is getting everything he deserves... Hodlonaut Wins Norwegian Lawsuit Against Self-Proclaimed ‘Satoshi’ Craig Wright In her ruling, Judge Helen Engebrigtsen wrote that “Granath had sufficient factual grounds to claim that Wright had lied and cheated in his attempt to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto.” By Cheyenne Ligon, Jack Schickler, Nikhilesh De Oct 20, 2022 at 1:43 p.m. UTC Updated Oct 20, 2022 at 9:49 p.m. UTC Magnus Granath, known on Twitter as “Hodlonaut,” won a lawsuit against Craig Wright on Thursday, a judge in Norway ruled. Granath sued Wright in Norway to try and preempt a defamation suit Wright planned to bring against Granath in the U.K., where defamation laws are heavily tipped in favor of the plaintiff and monetary damages can be enormous. Read more: Who Can Say Who Is Not Satoshi? Hodlonaut and Wright Go to Trial to Find Out At the center of both cases is a series of tweets, written by Granath in March 2019, in which he called Wright – who has long claimed and failed to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous inventor of Bitcoin – a “fraud” and a “scammer.” Granath asked the Norwegian court to rule that his tweets were protected by the freedom of speech, therefore preventing Wright from pursuing damages in relation to the tweets. “The result was as expected,” Granath told CoinDesk. “I am very happy and thankful for all the support.” Wright’s attorneys told CoinDesk he would appeal the ruling and warned that “anonymous online bullying” could have a “chilling effect” on public discourse. Read the full ruling here. Oslo trial After a weekslong trial in Oslo in September, District Court Judge Helen Engebrigtsen found in favor of Granath, ordering him acquitted of all claims for compensation and not liable for damages relating to the tweets. Wright has also been ordered to pay Granath’s legal fees in the amount of NOK 4,053,750 (approximately $383,000). Judge Engebrigtsen ruled that Granath’s use of words such as “fraud” and “scammer” to describe Wright were fair. “The court believes that ‘fraud’/’fraudulently’ in this context means “one who is something other than what he claims to be.’ ‘Fake’ has a similar meaning: ‘illegitimate,’ ‘false,’ ‘something other than what he pretends to be,” Engebrigtsen wrote. “‘Scammer’ must be understood the same way, in the sense of ‘swindler’ or ‘cheater.’” Granath’s lawyer, Ørjan Salvesen Haukaas, appeared positive about the outcome, though he said he would review it further. “We note that the court has agreed with our arguments and our client’s position in the case, and we are of course happy with that,” Haukaas said in an emailed statement. Flimsy evidence Judge Engebrigtsen wrote that the evidence presented by Wright’s lawyers was “not suitable to change [the court’s] prevailing opinion that Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto.” Read more: Craig Wright Won’t Give Cryptographic Proof He’s Satoshi, His Lawyers Say at Hodlonaut Trial Wright’s lack of evidence that he is Satoshi has been an issue in his other trials, including a recent defamation case he brought against podcaster Peter McCormack in the U.K.. A judge found Wright to have submitted false evidence and awarded him a single pound in damages. Forensic analysts hired by Granath pored over documents previously supplied by Wright which purported to prove he had been the author of the Bitcoin white paper – but which included discrepancies such as the inclusion of fonts not available at the time. “Both KPMG (on behalf of Granath) and BDO (on behalf of Wright) have found that these documents contain at best unexplained changes which are likely to have been made after the date the documents are claimed to be from,” the judgment said. Given the lack of cryptographic proof available at the time, “the court believes that Granath had sufficient factual grounds to claim that Craig Wright is not Satoshi Nakamoto in March 2019,” Engebrigtsen said. “Wright has come out with a controversial claim, and must withstand criticism from dissenters,” she added, concluding that Granath’s statements were lawful, not defamatory. Engebrigtsen also appeared to take up the idea that Twitter is a naturally rough-and-tumble environment where users should have a thick skin, after Granath’s lawyers noted that Wright had also tweeted strong words such as “cuck” and “soy boy.” “Wright himself uses coarse slang and derogatory references, and so, in the court's view, must accept that others use similar jargon against him,” the judgment said. Read more: Crypto Twitter Took Center Stage During the First Day of Hodlonaut vs. Craig Wright Halvor Manshaus, Wright’s lawyer, told CoinDesk that the legal team “[does] not agree with the court’s assessment” that Granath’s communications were not, in a legal sense, defamatory or privacy-breaching and said the Twitter user “breached the commonly accepted threshold of decency.” “Private citizens should enjoy the same protection on Twitter as on other media platforms,” Manshaus said. “Anonymous online bullying and harassment risks having a chilling effect on meaningful debate and the civil exchange of views and opinions. Individuals should not be dissuaded from seeking to challenge persistent and pervasive online mistreatment or intimidation.” Read more: Vote for 2022's Most Influential in Crypto
Why is this shit so difficult to prove who the user was? Isn't there a field of cyberforensics? Well there must be, since they caught the "Crocodile of Wall Street". Just find out where the original white-paper on BTC was posted online, and trace the IP addy! Do the due diligence on foot after that!
Ok... so you think the guy that's friggin smart enough to create BTC, write a white-paper about it that 99.9999% of the human population has no effing clue about wtf it is he's talking about because it's on a coding level heretofore unheard of... ...who calls himself Satoshi Nakamoda just to add to the mystery of the whole concept with the expressed desire to remain f'ing anonymous for a decade or so... ....with billions and billions of dollars at stake mind you.... ...Is so f'ing stupid.... he's gonna use his (Vodaphone(?)) cable account and its router from his tiny geek hacker apartment in friggin Belgium or wherever the f he lived and say " gee they'll never figure this one out." >>>>Tell me you're not this f'ing clueless dude....
You are intimating that the guy wrote this paper back when, 2008 or something, KNEW it would become this huge controversial issue a decade later, and so did it in a way to be purposefully anonymous? And he did NOT know it would be worth billions and billions of dollars in 2008. Dude, everything can be traced. Start with the guy who registered the "bitcoin.org" in the first place back then, and work from there. Like solving a murder cold-case.
Because I'm a nice guy I'm gonna help you out here. 1) Take your cable box remote and scroll to "settings" 2) Press "enter" 3) Scroll to and select "block shows" 4) Select "search shows" 5) Enter d-a-t-e-l-i-n-e 6) Select "Dateline" on the on-screen menu 7) Hit "block show" 8) Learn to think a little more critically and exercise a little more common sense. **If you are mentally challenged for whatever reason or by whatever cause, please let me know via PM and in the future I will refrain from these type of posts. And I apologize if that is in fact the case. Other than that... yes... I am "intimating" everything I wrote. If it was that easy... do you not f'ing think someone somewhere.... with the skills of someone like a Julian Assange or some Czechoslovakian hack would have not figured this out already?! The whole point of BTC, in its infancy at least... was anonymity DUH!!!!!!!! Maybe Satoshi used that name to open a Craigslist account, and an ET account too... in between chapters of applying blockchain to a previously unheard of concept called cryptocurrency... to sell a bicycle and read a few threads about trading. >>> whatever
The guy started a currency war between people and governments, would you want everyone to know who you are if you brought that into existence? Some claim satoshi is really the CIA, but who knows? The real Satoshi is probably on an island somewhere with trillions laughing at everyone trying to find out who he is
I know Satoshi Nakamoto. I met him while briefly living in Japan. He's a real a-hole like Elon Musk. But why the fvck is everyone so hung up on his identity?
The interesting thing about CW is that his forked Bitcoin is technically superior to BTC. So as much as I hate the narcissist asshole, we have to give him credit that at least he tried to improve the product... And that is something that most cultists fail to do so.
Absolutely. I'm pretty confident Craig Wright is part of the Satoshi group -- which probably included Hal Finney and Dave Kleiman. And @Pekelo's point strengthened my view on all this. I don't think who he is as a person -- love him or hate him -- changes this. Also, once the Kleiman lawsuit was filed, Craig had to strongly take the position that he is Satoshi. To do otherwise would risk him losing bitcoin and technological rights. Before the lawsuit, he didn't want the risks that came with being identified as such. But then also when he started BCH / BitcoinSV, I'm sure he felt that being known as Satoshi could gather more support for those projects.
The real satoshi has 1 million Bitcoin in a wallet and none of those bitcoin have moved ever. never ever. They have been in there since 2009. For those keeping track that’s $19 billion worth of bitcoin that has never been moved even after this 80% draw down If Craig was Satoshi, or anybody else claims to be Satoshi, all they have to do is sell some bitcoin from that wallet. Just sell $50 worth to prove you are who you say you are. If you can’t do that you are full of shit full stop.