Could AI Trading Bots Transform the World of Investing?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by blueraincap, Feb 3, 2024.

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  2. DaveV

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  3. Snuskpelle

    Snuskpelle

    AIEQ was a pure marketing ploy anyhow. Anybody who has tried knows that generating alpha is not as simple as connecting a "smart" algorithm that does well in other more static contexts.

    Memory lane: Back when for a short while, QuantConnect tried letting people live stream algos, I streamed an algo called "AI Sucks" in the first month after AIEQ's introduction, which was an utterly simple pair trade with long S&P 500 and short AIEQ in equal volatility adjusted amounts. It was the only realistic algo there being live streamed and also was majorly positive, all the others were based on paper trading bugs or were negative. :-D
     
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  4. Sergio123

    Sergio123

    I see more revenue potential with AI in creating an Only Fans and IG influencer.
     
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  5. 2rosy

    2rosy



    I assume things advanced over last 10 years
     
  6. Axon

    Axon

    Eventually AI and robotics will reduce the economic value of all human labor and intellectual output to zero, at least asymptotically. That said, I haven't seen evidence indicating we are close to that right now in the trading world. It's the kind of thing that will happen slowly then all at once. When it's over for us traders you won't have to ask, it'll be obvious.
     
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  7. Hello Axon,

    Great comments

    One of the biggest challenge with us retail traders or atleast with me is, we struggle to build a HFT algo to compete with the other HFT algos by the big institutions.
     
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  8. schizo

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    Actually, there was a guy named Navinder Singh Sarao who ingeniously built an algo that did compete, and frankly beat, the HFTs in their own game. The thing is, if you build a better algo than the HFTs, you'll be prosecuted. So stay low and cover your tracks at all times. And, yes, be sure to click, click, click. :D
     
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  9. schizo

    schizo

    Well, I'll leave that to the pundits to decide. What I'm more interested is will we be up against frequent black swan events like Flash Crash due to rogue AIs? And what if the market doesn't bounce back like the last Flash Crash? What will the exchanges do then? Make the investors who lost their entire portfolio whole again (like they did last time)?
     
  10. Hello schizo,

    I see there is a documentary on youtube on Navinder Singh Sarao making millions trading the ES. I am going to watch it now.

    Thank you for the contact.

    Oh yes, I have no choice but to click click click click click.
     
    #10     Feb 3, 2024