Conversion strategy

Discussion in 'Options' started by bigspeculate, May 23, 2022.

  1. I was looking into dividend capture strategies and I noticed a conversion could be set up on QQQ with long dated options for a guaranteed profit. This can be found with a few other symbols too. Is this legit, seems like this shouldn't be possible. What risks are not showing up in the risk profile?
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    What are you be expecting to pay for the QQQ Jan 2023 295 conversion? How much in dividends are calculating you will get? What interest rate cost are you using toward your cost?
     
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  3. BKR88

    BKR88

    You'd have a guaranteed profit of ~$270 (trade) + $129 (div.) = $399
    399/2,950 = .135 = 13.5% in ~8 months if margin req. is $2,950.
    ***Based upon 100 shares +1P and -1C.
    ***Early exercise is a risk if price increases too much but wouldn't be a factor for some time.
     
  4. iprph90

    iprph90

    I think ticker NUSI accomplishes a similar collar methodology...current dividend yield 9 37% paid monthly.
     
  5. BKR88

    BKR88

    NUSI is down ~17% since Jan '22 even after adding in the dividend payments.
    His collar would guarantee a profit.
     
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  6. iprph90

    iprph90

    Okay.....but what is the conversion strategy PNL from Jan 22?
     
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    the profit isn’t guaranteed. There’s an issue with your data
     
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  8. a collar is a diff strat, and clearly a risky one
     
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  9. i dont look at these too often , but seems too good to be true
     
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    it’s the interest rate.

    you will get like 1.2 in divs but will pay like 4 in interest.
     
    #10     May 23, 2022
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