Conversion / Reversal Strategy for Retail Trader

Discussion in 'Options' started by ET180, Jan 26, 2016.

  1. ET180

    ET180

    Is it possible for someone to make money selling conversions / reversals using a retail platform such as IB? I don't see how such a strategy could work for something such as SPY where option spreads are tight, but it looks like there might be some opportunity for trading conversions / reversals on less-liquid stocks or ETFs with weekly options where the bid / ask spreads are wider. On the other hand, given that the opportunity is nearly-risk-free, it seems too good to be true and impossible to compete with large banks / HFT. Obviously, one would need to have low commissions and a broker which treats options assignment / exercise the same as trading a stock. Does anyone on here do this for a consistent, small, but almost risk-free arbitrage profit?
     
  2. destriero

    destriero

    As a conversion order? No. Trade the conversion via a covered call? OK, say you sell vol well in the call and then buy the put. Why not simply cover the CC at a profit -- zero utility in the conversion in that case. So no, there is no strategy to leg it. Carry on HTB reversals can/will change and you can blowout.

    Let's say someone here has tickers that they babysit for reversal opportunities. They would have to be brain-dead to tell you where to look.

    Are you just bored and feel like posting?
     
  3. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    what consistent small but almost risk-free arbitrage profit can you lock in? Do you fund better than the OCC? Are your borrow rates better than the banks with custodian businesses? Do you have commission rebates like the market makers on the Philly or PCoast?
     
  4. cvds16

    cvds16

    you need a time-machine that can transport you preferably at least 20 years back :)
     
  5. ET180

    ET180

    I would not borrow money to run this strategy so assume borrowing costs of 0. Aim is to generate a small short-term (week, no longer than a month) return on capital with almost zero risk.
     
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Borrow rates are implied in the options market. So you would be aiming to earn 25bps-40bps/year less commissions.
     
  7. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    This is Elite Trader!!!!!!! Roar!!!!! :)
     
  8. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    He would beat most of the guys on here.
     
  9. Maverick74

    Maverick74

    That's not saying much. :)
     
  10. Amalgam

    Amalgam

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    #10     Jan 26, 2016
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