Conformist Straight Line Thinking of the Covid Loser-Think Models

Discussion in 'Politics' started by easymon1, May 6, 2020.

  1. easymon1

    easymon1

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  2. southall

    southall

    I don't think anyone was predicting that 2 million people were going to die by august.

    There were always going to be counter measures put in place to slow this thing down.

    Currently 10 million infected in the US and 75,000 deaths.

    Flu infects 60 million people a year on average in the US (about half are asymptomatic), and around 100 million in a bad year.

    There is still a chance we could see 500,000+ deaths in the US from CV over the next 18 months. More lockdowns might be needed to prevent that.

    But they can ease the current counter measures as the health care systems are not going to be overloaded anytime soon.
     
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  3. easymon1

    easymon1

    Where are all the fabled deaths and overcrowded hospitals from the countries nearest to China, those in SE Asia, particularly Thailand, Laos, Myanmar and Cambodia?

    Those countries are known for fairly lax government enforcement, as can be seen in this video people can do all sorts of economic activity all day long and yet we see low official death tolls and no over crowded hospitals or mass graves as predicted by the nonsense alarmists.


    Some will argue “well they just aren’t reporting the deaths”. More like they aren’t calling every heart attack or cancer COVID like was done in USA and Italy. And even if they were grossly under reporting, you can’t hide the alleged medical emergency predicted by the alarmists. It would be very apparent, but it doesn’t exist.

    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com...yet-extremely-low-mortality-from-coronavirus/
     
  4. southall

    southall


    And South Korea is doing the best job of containing the Virus out of everyone.

    Why cant we do what South Korea is doing?

    The model baselines look to be in the right ball park to me (eg 2 million US deaths)

    But these models can never know which actual counter measures people and governments will enact, how well they will be followed, and for how long they will last.
     
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  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    How can we know this, for sure? How many people who were asymptomatic with the flu (I.E. They did not know they had it), said to their doctor on their 6 month checkup..."Hey Doc, let's do a blood draw on me and see if I have Influenza A-B. My insurance will cover it, right? If it does not, I will foot the bill for the blood test."

    And how about the fact that not everyone in the USA was a wimpy snowflake POS and ran crying to the doctor when they get the sniffles, before this COVID thing. We got the flu, we didn't go OUT to the doctor, who could not help us anyway.

    Once you have the flu, the doc can't DO ANYTHING FOR YOU! It is too late! He'd tell you to stay home, consume chicken-noodle soup, and stay warm.

    So I find your numbers off there, southie, simply because they cannot ever be known. Like this COVID shit.
     
  6. southall

    southall

    Flu has been around a lot longer than COVID, multi year studies have been done.

    Studies based on blood tests, not anecdotes or surveys, this one was from 2014, had 77% of people who were infected by flu dont show symtoms:

    "British researchers who tested people for influenza antibodies before and after each flu season for 5 years found that an average of 18% of them appeared to have contracted a flu infection each season, but only 23% of that group got sick, according to a report in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine."

    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2014/03/uk-flu-study-many-are-infected-few-are-sick
     
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