Christian Holidays and Pagan timings

aquarian1 · Apr 4, 2024

I would like to say that this isn't a topic which interests me overly.

I do believe Jesus is about relationship and not religion.

Religions are man's creation and of this world of darkness ruled by Satan.

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From 1 John

The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9

15Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father d is not in them. 16For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world.

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So I'm more interested in people reading the 4 gospels and finding their way to the light.

aquarian1 · Apr 4, 2024

Good1 had a post about Easter.
in another thread which I've moved (copied) to here:

Good1 said:
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This might be a little off topic but since Easter is mentioned here I figure this would be a good spot to find out what Rabbi Tovia Singer has to say about Easter:

Seems there is some conflict between the three synoptic gospels versus the Gospel of John exactly what day was Jesus crucified. Was it the 14th day of Nissan (John), or was it the 15th day of Nissan (synoptics)?

Also, for a while, Christians used to rely on the Jews to know exactly what day to celebrate this holiday because the Jews apparently had a superior calculation method for the length of a month. At some point Christians no longer wanted to depend on Jews for anything so they came up with their own method of calculation . That's why it no longer corresponds with the Jewish holiday of Pasach (Passover). See image above.

According to Catholic Answers, the holiday has nothing to do with Ishtar, the Babylonian goddess of sex and fertility . Maybe it's because the timing was on the same day as the old Ishtar day? Not sure. What is more sure is this was a huge dispute, what day to celebrate on and was supposedly settled at council of Nicea in July 325.

But still there is a different date for Byzantine Eastern Orthodox versus Roman Catholic in the West perhaps due to the use of different calendar calculations (Gregorian versus Julian). Whatever, it appears @aquarian1 uses the Roman Catholic calculations since this year, 2024, Eastern Orthodox Easter lands on May 5th.

Anyway, Singer points out that Hebrew scriptures do not say the Messiah is supposed to die and then rise again three days later. Nevertheless many Christians believe this is what the Old Testament says for some reason.

Singer believes the writer of John was more interested in framing Jesus as the neo Passover lamb.
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Good1 said:
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This might be a little off topic but since Easter is mentioned here I figure this would be a good spot to find out what Rabbi Tovia Singer has to say about Easter:

Seems there is some conflict between the three synoptic gospels versus the Gospel of John exactly what day was Jesus crucified. Was it the 14th day of Nissan (John), or was it the 15th day of Nissan (synoptics)?

Also, for a while, Christians used to rely on the Jews to know exactly what day to celebrate this holiday because the Jews apparently had a superior calculation method for the length of a month. At some point Christians no longer wanted to depend on Jews for anything so they came up with their own method of calculation . That's why it no longer corresponds with the Jewish holiday of Pasach (Passover). See image above.

According to Catholic Answers, the holiday has nothing to do with Ishtar, the Babylonian goddess of sex and fertility . Maybe it's because the timing was on the same day as the old Ishtar day? Not sure. What is more sure is this was a huge dispute, what day to celebrate on and was supposedly settled at council of Nicea in July 325.

But still there is a different date for Byzantine Eastern Orthodox versus Roman Catholic in the West perhaps due to the use of different calendar calculations (Gregorian versus Julian). Whatever, it appears @aquarian1 uses the Roman Catholic calculations since this year, 2024, Eastern Orthodox Easter lands on May 5th.

Anyway, Singer points out that Hebrew scriptures do not say the Messiah is supposed to die and then rise again three days later. Nevertheless many Christians believe this is what the Old Testament says for some reason.

Singer believes the writer of John was more interested in framing Jesus as the neo Passover lamb.
More...

aquarian1 · Apr 4, 2024

Yes it would be better to start a new thread so that the threads are cleaner.

That way people can go into a thread that interests them.

The video Pagan Christianity goes into some of what you have posted.

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