China stocks next week skyrocketing

Discussion in 'Stocks' started by earth_imperator, Aug 26, 2022.

  1. Peter8519

    Peter8519

    Does audit improve the performance of a company? Nope. It's just a fact checking. The audit issue is the key whether Chinese stocks shall remain in the US exchange. The Chinese companies stock price will ultimately depend on its performance. Of late, Chinese companies are facing many challenges. Another key factor is related to technology transfer which western countries are imposing restriction.
     
  2. maxinger

    maxinger

    No wonder Hang Seng futures went up rapidly & massively yesterday before the US market opened
     
  3. xandman

    xandman

    Useless. The Chinese won't live up to it.


    “The proof will be in the pudding. While important, this framework is merely a step in the process,” Gensler said. “This agreement will be meaningful only if the PCAOB actually can inspect and investigate completely audit firms in China."
     
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  4. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    I agree. All will depend on how the agreement is going to be executed and how the audit is going to be carried out. I mean many of the problems are actually very obvious and don't really require any extensive audit. All you need to do is just be allowed to observe the company and you will find out if its reported revenues/profit is legit or not. The majority of these audit requirement is really basic. I can't believe when it comes to China, you actually need an agreement to carry out basic audits. LOL
     
  5. maxinger

    maxinger

    China stocks next week NO skyrocketing


    big, strong, audited firms can collapse.

    Barrings Bank - Nick lesson unlimited futures trading

    Enron - top level concealed huge losses

    Bear steams - subprime mortgage crisis

    Lehman Brothers - mortgage debt crisis

    Madoff Investment securities - the Ponzi King

    Wirecard - $$$ disappeared



    Just focus on trading and not auditing and not investing.
     
  6. TheDawn

    TheDawn

    Auditing is not foolproof and infallible. Auditors are not the police or some super detectives who can detect every single fraud that exists in the books. It's not like just because the company was audited that it is automatically honest. Auditing is just a process and a mechanism to confirm what the company states on the financial statements is really reflected in actual existence, for example, if the company states it has $1 billion in cash, the audit process will go into all of the bank accounts of the company and confirm that there is indeed $1 billion there but if the company provides bogus bank accounts or provide fraudulent bank statements, the auditors are not going to catch that. And this is what happened with Enron and Madoff Investment. So with or without auditing, the companies are still expected to do their due diligence to make every effort to be honest about what they put on their financial statements.

    And out of these listed firms above, only three firms, Barrings Bank, Bear & Stearns (not Steams) and Lehman Brothers were audited and still failed due to risk mismanagement in their trading endeavours. The rest of the firms failed because they were all frauds, either deliberately misleading auditors or committing fraud outright so auditing still helps to ensure investor confidence and integrity of the financial investing process. If there are still frauds existing with the reporting and auditing requirement for public companies, imagine if there is no reporting and/or auditing requirement for publicly listed companies.