Caterpillar

Discussion in 'Options' started by oldnemesis, Sep 26, 2015.

  1. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/caterpillar-announces-job-cuts-10k-160704869.html

    http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=cat

    Trade:
    With CAT at 64.98
    May 80/85 bear call spread for a net credit of $45
    Yield = 45/455 = 9.8% in 237 days or 15.2% annualized
    Prob = 80%

    Price.............. Profit / Loss............. ROM %
    50.00.................. 45.00..................... 9.80%
    60.00.................. 45.00..................... 9.80%
    70.00.................. 45.00..................... 9.80%
    80.00.................. 45.00..................... 9.80%
    80.45.................... 0.00..................... 0.00%
    83.01............... (256.20)................. -51.24%
    85.00............... (455.00).................. -91.00%
    95.00............... (455.00).................. -91.00%
    100.00............. (455.00).................. -91.00%
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2015
  2. Jobs cuts are usually bullish for a company. So I would have gone with a bull put spread.


    • CAT at $64.98
    • Sell May 2016 55.00 Put at $2.94
    • Buy May 2016 50.00 Put at $1.90
    • Credit $1.04


    EDIT: Having both spread positions open simultaneously could also be considered.



    :)
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2015
  3. its dropped quit a bit already
     

  4. Yes ..... to the "untrained eye" CAT has dropped quit a bit on the layoff news and that is a bearish sign. Perhaps the sell off was a knee jerk reaction instead? Labor is very expensive and the layoffs should be bullish for CAT.






    :)
     
  5. Sold to you OTM...I can see you ride ride the short bus!

    I was saying that it has dropped quite a bit already and I wouldn't short it any further right now. If if hadn't dropped so far just recently, I would short it just to fade your call because your calls made here would normally be a contrarian play for me.
     
    Last edited: Sep 26, 2015
  6. 1. A bear call spread is not a 'short'. Consult table.

    2. The main information in the article cited is NOT about the job cuts.
     
  7. should have gone with my instincts and faded OTM
     
  8. $CAT Well so far Buffet took a hit this year with $CAT, $IBM, and $COP. Compared to his losses YTD, i dont feel so bad.