Hi looking at Capital protected98-100% ( with upside cap8-10% ) ETFs from Calmos or Innovator https://www.calamos.com/funds/etf/calamos-sp-500-structured-alt-protection-etf-may-cpsm/#_portfolio Any thoughts experiences?
A new ETF touts 100% downside protection. Here is how it works. https://www.morningstar.com/news/ma...-100-downside-protection-here-is-how-it-works
"the fund plans to eliminate downside for investors, while still offering exposure to up to 9.8 percentage-points of the S&P 500's return over the coming 12 months, before the fund's 69-basis point management fee is factored in" does this mean that if the SP500 returns 100% over 12 months this ETF returns 9.8% ? and if SP500 returns 20% over 12 months this ETF returns 1.96% ?
don’t know this etf specifics but the idea is straightforward. put cash into treasury to get a fixed rate while using some if not all of the interests to buy spx calls. of course etf redemption is a bit complicated so they probably don’t deploy all the cash.
I’m watching this etf as well. One of the “problems” is that they use OTC options and say that fund’s NAV may significantly diverge from market value. So I am concerned about scenario where market goes up 10% in 3 months, at which point I would like to sell to lock the max gain, but have to wait till expiration for NAV to catch up. Also, why make the share price so low? To make it more profitable for market makers? If this product designed for retirement accounts (alternative to Indexed Annuities), then people need to trade thousands of shares. Very strange. I am going to watch what happens to it in a pull back and subsequent recovery.
this kind of principal protected index linked note is supposed to be a structured product. i did this before the gfc, all had a redemption date, and not for retails. but obviously time has changed and folks get greedy. you can do this easily yourself.
I don’t think they set up the structure in a way to guarantee 100% from day one. I assume they do some active hedging. I may be wrong. They do say they don’t guarantee 100% protection. Are you saying retail can set up this structure at no debit?
yes, these days even for a retail trader is doable easily, with self-discipline. the general idea is very simple, $1k capital buys for example a 10s at 99.137260, you would have 86 cents left to buy spx calls with different tenors (assuming bullish, which is always the case), odte, weekly, monthly etc. some calls will win big, many will lose small, with either set profit target to exit or leave it to expiration. even more aggressively, a 10s pays expected coupons semi-annually, you would expect 20 interest payments totalling $450+/-, pawn the 10s and spend $450 to buy more spx calls. you still have 1k in the 10s.
Ok here is what I found more: SO basically it is a Option combo of 1) Long Deep ITM call 2) Long ATM Put 3) Short OTM call thus at expiry if SPY goes up max you can earn is that CAP and At expiry max downside is zero - Options are FLEX options, sounds OTC but counter party is OCC so high repute same counter party as all other options Still raises few questions - If SPY goes up up to cap will the RTF catch the rise one to one? at same speed, looks slow? as somebody pointed out, why is that so? - If SPY goes down drastically will the ETF go below issue price ? just because of market sell off or can't go below issue price - How to purchase it from issuer or form Market on day 1 - What happens on the last day ETF dissolves and everybody get cash back? Can this be done at retail by using European style SPX index options? The promoter says it will be difficult! as FLEX options are exactly that FLEX is it just marketing spill or true? Argument against it for long term Some say If you go long SPY and hold in draw down you are better off than giving up upside at 9-10%! Any authoritative Elittrader? I will post this in options