Buying shares in size

Discussion in 'Trading' started by DevBru, Jun 6, 2020.

  1. DevBru

    DevBru

    How would you define how much you can buy or sell aggressively without impacting the market to much?

    X% of average 5 minute volume or hourly volume?

    Lets say you want to build a position in 10-15 minutes, not much longer. For example 200K in AAL or JPM.

    I am only going to trade stocks with high premarket volume, so most of these stocks also trade a lot of volume during the day after such an active premarket.

    Could also be interesting to know how to make such calculations when i get very solid entries in stocks with less volume.
     
  2. Metamega

    Metamega

    Could use volume of current bar as a reference. For instance Amibroker default setting in backtester for volume is to assume no more then 10% of volume for max position size.

    I have seen somewhere looking up something, an algorithm service by Haime Bodek for processing large orders. Probably many similar. Think IB offers order algorithms.
     
  3. JamesJ

    JamesJ

    Take a lot of liquidity when there is a large bid/offer, often at levels x.00, x.25... However if you want even more size than available there you want to lool at algorithms.

    Ibkr has some, i think there even is a guaranteed vwap order, with up to 10% of avg daily volume...
     
  4. DevBru

    DevBru

    Thanks guys, going to take a better look at those algorithms.

    I really like IB's execution options, to bad the charting isn't so good as well.
     
  5. ironchef

    ironchef

    With average daily volume of ~2,400 shares, even an order of a few hundred shares will move the market on this stock:
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  6. DevBru

    DevBru

    I know that. That is why i mentioned i am only going to trade stocks with high premarket volume (let's say around 1 million shares traded).