Burry's QQQ/SPY Puts

Discussion in 'Economics' started by The_Krakenite, Aug 15, 2023.

  1. I'm surprised to not see much debate recently regarding Scion's $890M of Spy and $740M of QQQ puts. Sure, they were purchased well over a month or so, but still IIRC he's still in those positions despite the word is finally out now.

    This is over 90% of their portfolio.
     
  2. mervyn

    mervyn

    notional, 2 million shares each
     
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  3. Q.E.D.

    Q.E.D.

    No trader with any experience puts 90% of ones portfolio in one position. Probably some idiot report compared notional value vs AUM.

    When I first saw the story, based on number of puts, but not knowing just what date/strikes I roughly estimated that in total the cost was less than $100,000.

    Even if twice that amount, it does not merit comment, nor thoughts, as thousands of traders make 100 - 500k buy/sells pretty much every few seconds.
     
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  4. Burry is bearish since forever. Even was in 2020. Hes past his best times I think.
     
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  5. who care what he and other hedge fund does? do you have million or billion of dollar to trade like him? focus on your own account and your own trading strategy (if you have one), or if you have one focus on improving your trading strategy
     
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  6. Overnight

    Overnight

    As the article said, it's notional value. At $370 on the QQQ for example, that's only 20,000 puts. That doesn't seem like a lot in the options space?
     
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  7. nitrene

    nitrene

    If The Big Short was accurate, Burry is not a short-term trader but rather a fundamentalist investor. He was shorting housing way back in 2004-5 so he was extremely early and his investors were getting antsy about the monthly payments on his CDS' that were costing them money.

    This market doesn't make any sense. Regional bank failures shouldn't be a catapult for the QQQ to rise 40+%. Its a world gone mad. Burry was shorting the market back then as well. He's a permabear that sees collapse everywhere around him. His Twitter handle is Cassandra so it should be no surprise.
     
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  8. mervyn

    mervyn

  9. %%
    Sounds mostly right;
    except QQQ buyers + seller$ know QQQ has no financial stock in QQQ.
    So that QQQ move made perfect sense.
    Some QQQ sellers + buyers may want to factor AUG + SEPT can be worst or weakest month$ for NQ or QQQ;
    or 50dma.........................................................
     
    #10     Aug 17, 2023