Biden administration to ban gas generators

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Chuck Rost, Jul 22, 2023.

  1. ph1l

    ph1l

    The Consumer Product Safety Commission claims it's for safety
    https://www.cpsc.gov/Newsroom/News-...Minimal-Supports-Mandatory-Rulemaking-Process
    https://www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/Br...df?VersionId=hLnAkKQ6bCD_SKin8RE6Iax.BjZsB5x3
     
  2. Overnight

    Overnight


    "...In a June 28 press release, Susan Orenga, executive director of the Portable Generator Manufacturers’ Association,.."

    OH COME ON NOW! The "PGMA"? Is there really such a thing or do people just make shit up? What is their charter? Do they have monthly dues? Who is the comptroller? Do they record meeting minutes?

    Fucking Christ with all these pseudo-organizations.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The PGMA (Portable Generator Manufacturers Association) is a well known industry group that was formed in 2009. Nearly all the major manufacturers of portable generators sold in the U.S. are members.

    You can find information about the PGMA at - https://www.pgmaonline.com/default.asp
    including their Board of Directors, staff members, publications, press room, etc.
     
  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    With the shonky square footage over strength way Amercians build homes, gas generators can indeed be deadly as carbon monoxide can penetrate plasterboard/timber construction like it's hardly there.

    I recall a neighbour of a cousin ran a generator in the garage with the door ajar. Reasonable ventilation one would think. Dead as a dodo the next day in the bedroom above the garage which actually only shared a very small part of the floor, under a foot, with the garage roof.

    This kind of thing happens all the time. Only when it actually happens to somebody near them will a conservative realise there is an issue.
     
  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark


    Scary,I would have thought that was safe:wtf:
     
  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    Yep, you would. As CO mixes evenly in air it should be however drafts and gaps.. Even outside near a window it can come inside in dangerous amounts.
    If I recall between 120-200 parts per million sustained in a bedroom will kill and most deaths happen to sleepers. I recall this from hotel lodges in Botswana where there was a campaign to make sure generators were a safe distance, especially from staff quarters.
     
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  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    You may have saved my life in the future:thumbsup:
     
  8. I once was warming up a car with a catalytic converter outside with wind the blowing towards the open garage. I had a CO detector in the garage and within 30 seconds it registered "999" parts per million, which was the out of bounds threshold on the detector. Damn. By the way, my understanding is catalytic converters need to warm up before being effective. Further, as the engine warms up, CO emissions should drop substantially. Properly tuned and warmed up diesel engines apparently produce little CO, for what it's worth.
     
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  9. Tsing Tao

    Tsing Tao

    I've got a full home natural gas generator. 26kw. I love it! You'll never ban it in FL!
     
    #10     Jul 24, 2023