Average WEEKLY wage of $9440 for finance in NYC?

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by pinetboltz, Feb 2, 2019.

  1. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    after reading a bloomberg article earlier today on stanford business school, i was redirected to a BLS.gov website on weekly wages, and was surprised to see that the average weekly wage is $9,440 for the "financial activities supersector" in Manhattan (as of first quarter 2018)

    https://www.bls.gov/regions/new-yor...ease/countyemploymentandwages_newyorkcity.htm

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    That's pretty incredible, translates to $9440 x 52 = $490,880 annual wage on average.

    But given that the common observation is that investment banks are bottom heavy, with only a few % who make MD/partner, the $490k average seems quite high

    any insights on this? if that's literally the average, got to bring it up with my boss on the next salary discussion, lol
     
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  2. Yeah you need median
     
  3. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    yeah, i mean that's my thought too, right skewed distributions/ outliers, but if BLS govt statisticians are reporting "average" there must be a reason they chose that right?

    & i just did a rough numbers check,

    nyc population - 9 million
    nyc working population - 4 million
    financial industry workers - approx. 200,000

    if the average annual wage is $500k for nyc finance, then total annual wage payout would be 200,000 x $500k = $100 billion

    which seems reasonable given that
    goldman paid out $11 billion in salary/benefits in 2017 per their financials, on around 36000 headcount, for avg $305k, but then that is global workforce, so i imagine the nyc avg for them is prob higher, given that mix of headcount tilts toward front office more in nyc, as opposed to smaller cities

    still, the $500k per year average seems rather high, given that:
    - not everyone in nyc finance works at goldman
    - even at gs most jobs probably don't pay $500k (or do they)

    so what gives?

    assuming of course, that there is no excel coding error by some intern who churned out the $9440 avg weekly number
     
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  4. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    It also includes bonus season. The next quarter the average weekly wage will annualized closer to 2,000 I bet.
     
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  5. sle

    sle

    Interesting bit is that you can impute the average bonus from these numbers. First, you assume that the regular weekly wage is 3k-ish, so the balance is due to the single bonus check. There are 13 weeks in a quarter, so ($9440 * 13 - $2750 * 13) = 86 grand would be an estimated median bonus for the investment bank. Sounds about right, from my experience.
     
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  6. pinetboltz

    pinetboltz

    good point, i had originally annualized the whole thing, now realize that it should only be multiplied for the 1st quarter since that's when bonuses are paid out
     
  7. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

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    I doubt the average weekly wage is 3k-ish. I think that category includes bank tellers and back office people.

    The average compensation at Goldman is like 400k. It’s about as pure of an ibank around.