As Paris burns because of fuel taxes, Republican cucks back 'Carbon Tax' in the House

Discussion in 'Politics' started by wildchild, Dec 2, 2018.

  1. wildchild

    wildchild

    It is no wonder these House Republicans got their asses handed to them.

    Two Republican House members have signed their name onto bipartisan carbon tax legislation, a bill that stands virtually zero chance of passing during the lame duck session.

    GOP Reps. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania and Francis Rooney of Florida are to introduce a carbon tax bill on Tuesday alongside Florida Democratic Rep. Ted Deutch. The Energy Innovation and Carbon Dividend Act, if passed, would slap a $15-per-metric-ton carbon fee on fossil fuel industries. While the bill has little chance of passing, it is intended to spark a debate over carbon pricing as the Democratic Party prepares to take over the lower chamber of Congress.

    “More than a dozen federal agencies just warned us that if we don’t take dramatic action, climate change will knock 10 percent off of our GDP by the end of this century,” Deutch, the bill’s Democratic co-sponsor, stated to Bloomberg Environment. “Putting a price on carbon can help change the behavior of polluters. We hope our bipartisan bill will spur action on climate change before it’s too late.”
     
  2. They should be arrested for treason. We should be looking for ways to burn more coal. We are the Saudi Arabia of coal and we need to make better use of it. We can build coal fired power plants to generate juice for all those Teslas. Wind farms are ugly and kill our precious eagles and condors. All new houses should be equipped with solar panels however.
     
  3. It's not about fuel taxes, that's a small part of it, so again, you are wrong.
     
  4. wildchild

    wildchild

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  5. Like I said, it's part of it but more about overall taxation. You are so ignorant and deluded by right wing bullshit that it's painful

    ngry about a planned increase in fuel taxes and their dwindling purchasing power

    and that is after years of high taxes at rate around 80% of income

    “You get to the end of the month, there’s nothing,” he said.

    That is why Mr. Macron’s plans to raise the gasoline tax, modest an increment as it may seem, was the final straw for so many, the spark that finally set off a seething rage that has been building for years.
     
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  6. wildchild

    wildchild

    Actually to quote you directly, "It's not about fuel taxes". To quote the New York Slimes piece "largely made up of working-class people angry about a planned increase in fuel taxes".
     
  7. wildchild

    wildchild

    That is not what you said, and the New York Slimes stated the fuel tax as the primary reason so you have no argument. Just admit you screwed up so we all can move on.
     
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  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    They suspended the fuel tax for 6 months in an attempt to appease the protestors. I don't believe this will stop the protests.

    France protests: PM Philippe suspends fuel tax rises
    BBC article link - https://tinyurl.com/y8gx97pq

    Fuel tax rises which had led to weeks of violent protests in France have been suspended for six months.

    PM Edouard Philippe said that people's anger must be heard, and the measures would not be applied until there had been proper debate with those affected.

    The protests have hit major French cities, causing considerable damage for the past three weekends.

    The "gilets jaunes" (yellow vest) protests have now grown to reflect more widespread anger at the government.

    Three people have died since the unrest began and the resulting violence and vandalism - notably when statues were smashed at the Arc de Triomphe in Paris last Saturday - have been widely condemned.

    "Yellow vests" are so called because they have taken to the streets wearing the high-visibility yellow clothing that is required to be carried in every vehicle by French law.

    The movement has grown via social media and has supporters across the political spectrum.
    President Emmanuel Macron was elected last year with an overwhelming mandate for sweeping reform, but his popularity has fallen sharply in recent months.

    Mr Macron has accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block the reforms.

    What did Mr Philippe say?
    Mr Philippe announced the measures in a TV address after meeting MPs from the governing party La Republique en Marche.

    He said the six-month suspension would be applied to fuel tax increases, as well as to hikes in electricity and gas prices and strict vehicle emissions controls.

    "The French people who have put on yellow vests love their country," he said. "We share those values."

    But he said the violence must stop.

    "The main role of the state is to guarantee public order, but we must fight against anything that endangers the unity of the nation," he said, adding that any future demonstrations should be declared officially and carried out peacefully.

    It is not clear how the government will find the revenue it was anticipating from these measures, but Finance Minister Bruno Le Maire - quoted by Reuters news agency - said the suspension would not put its budget commitments in jeopardy.

    What is the wider anger about?
    Emmanuel Macron was elected on a platform of economic reform which would, the French people were told, improve their lot - with lower unemployment and a kick-started economy.

    But many feel that has not emerged. An analysis of the 2018-19 budget carried out by France's public policy institute, for example, found that incomes for the poorest quarter of households would largely drop or stay the same under the plans.

    Middle-income earners would see a modest bump - but the greatest beneficiaries would be those who were already wealthy, in the top 1%. The pattern is worse for retired people - almost all of whom will be worse off.

    Macron's difficulty
    By Hugh Schofield, BBC News, Paris

    Will it be enough? That is the first question. Will the yellow vests feel they have won a big enough concession from the government, and therefore call off their protest?

    There are plenty of voices that can be heard today saying they want more. Why is it only a suspension of the tax rise, they ask, and not an abolition? What is to guarantee that the government won't reinstate it next June? Maybe we need to step up the pressure.

    But by making a concession, the government does not need to satisfy everyone. It needs only to satisfy a large enough bloc of "moderates" among the gilets jaunes, and wean them away from the barricades.

    If that happens, then the movement will lose momentum. And though it won't be over, the end will be in sight.

    My bet would be that this will be what happens. Opinion polls will show a general approval of the government's concession. The gilets jaunes en masse start to waver. But there's still a protest by hardliners on Saturday.

    Maybe a parting shot, but still - and maybe because of that - a dangerous moment.

    How has the news been received?
    Yellow vest spokesman Benjamin Cauchy said the move was "either a disguised political snub or... to make fun of the French and put the tax back in six months".

    Bruno Retailleau, the Senate leader of the centre-right opposition, the Republicans, said the suspension was "absolutely inadequate".

    Far-right leader Marine Le Pen concurred, tweeting (in French) that a postponement, rather than cancellation, of the tax did not go far enough.

    Ségolène Royal, former ecology minister for the centre-left Socialists, welcomed the move but said the tax should have been put on hold from the beginning.

    Fears that violent protests in the capital could continue next weekend have led Paris St Germain to postpone their League 1 home football match on Saturday.

    (much more at above url)
     
  10. UsualName

    UsualName

    You right wingers are nuts. What men marching in people no hats is some how a threat to democracy but riots and violence in France are not?
     
    #10     Dec 4, 2018