Are we in a stealth bear market

Discussion in 'Wall St. News' started by zdreg, Aug 22, 2021.

Based upon your trading are we in a bear market?

  1. bear market

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    28.6%
  2. bull market

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  3. don't know

    5 vote(s)
    35.7%
  4. bear market except meme stocks

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  1. zdreg

    zdreg

  2. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Is that like a slow moving crash?
     
  3. KCalhoun

    KCalhoun

    Interesting article especially re divergences
     
  4. Peter8519

    Peter8519

    When it really comes, "experts" will come out from the closet and say "I predicted it".:rolleyes:
     
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  5. nitrene

    nitrene

    Seems like a lot of the stocks that are going down have had so much growth and that looking at longer time horizons makes sense. Zoom, Twilio, etc. have had huge growth already so I assume the 2nd derivative of growth will be negative for a long time.

    Up until a few weeks ago the vaccine stocks skyrocketed like 75-100% (MRNA, BNTX, NVAX). Even right now the Drug stocks are still going up almost every day (JNJ, PFE, MRK, LLY, etc.). Pfizer went from the $43 breakout to almost $53 in 2-3 weeks.

    I do agree that the recent market rally is larger based on Consumer Staples, Utilities and Healthcare (XLP, XLU & XLV). Seems like a bear market right now is just sector rotation and not much actual selling. Even on heavy selling days the defensive sectors almost always come back at the end of the day.
     
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  6. themickey

    themickey

    Two observations:
    1) The last chart on your web link is of Market averages vs SPX price, its not a chart of Market averages versus SPX averages, so it can be misconstrued the ways it's presented.
    An indexes Price can rise while its index averages fall.
    2) If you look carefully, the greater the drawdowns, the greater the bounces.
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    Here is Market general, SPX, NAS, DJIA, 50 day.
    The Mkt general (green line) underperforms the others, probably because of the influence of small caps.
     
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  7. themickey

    themickey

    Here is SPX price versus its 50 day averages.
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  8. themickey

    themickey

    Here is just the SPX 50 day averages seen as a bar chart rather than line chart.
    upload_2021-8-23_3-34-56.png
     
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  9. themickey

    themickey

    My vocab incorrect, should be; 'Total Market.'
    I was waking up early morning so brain still a bit foggy when I wrote that.
     
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  10. #10     Aug 23, 2021
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