Are there rebates on Futures market

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Dna7272, May 10, 2022.

  1. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    Hi friends, I am a stock trader and thinking about trying futures. Are there rebates (you get paid when providing liquidity) on the futures market (eg. CME)? And what are the exchange fees per contract? My futures system has a low expected return, hence figuring out how much I am gonna pay in fees is very much important

    Any help is very much appreciated!
     
  2. Robert Morse

    Robert Morse Sponsor

    For members, there are rebates for volume.https://www.cmegroup.com/company/files/cme-fee-schedule-2021-03-01.pdf and discounts at trade. For example, page 3 has E-mini equity index fees with discounts for different types of members and page 4 shows the tiers to get rebates.


     
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  3. maxinger

    maxinger

    [QUOTE="Dna7272, post: 5594163, member: 524956"(you get paid when providing liquidity) o[/QUOTE]


    since you are going to provide liquidity,
    we should be asking you this Q,
    not the other way round.
     
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  4. SunTrader

    SunTrader

    Stick with getting screwed on stonks.
     
  5. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    I understand these discounts are applied to high-volume traders. I am not planning to to provide high volume, and this is probably not applicable to me
     
    Last edited: May 10, 2022
  6. maxinger

    maxinger

    now, this is getting rather odd.

    what is the difference between

    high volume trader and
    high volume provider?
     
  7. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    Just a mistake, fixed it
     
  8. bone

    bone

    IMO that’s the least of your potential pitfalls.

    And you’ll need an omnibus account in order to get any sort of spread margin offset IF your plan is to spread index futures versus stocks.

     
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  9. Dna7272

    Dna7272

    The fees and the spread are the only problems that I face. The system is statistically sound, rhe only problem is that ES and NQ are almost efficient and the expected return is low.

    I have been using the same system with stocks and this year I am up 30%, while the markets are going the wrong way.
     
  10. bone

    bone

    “Statistically Sound” is a far cry from real time execution risk. I can think of a dozen firms that spend six figures a month on their ECN’s and that PAY for stock order flow in order to arb baskets.

    I wish you good fortune !

     
    #10     May 10, 2022
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