are shorts using algos to push price down?

Discussion in 'Automated Trading' started by mute9003, Apr 17, 2025.

  1. mute9003

    mute9003

    i was looking at sune and dmn and the bunch.
    and noticed that on one second charts only when trading activity drops the algos kick in and start running the price down continuously.

    am i seeing this correctly that algos cant brain when trading activity is present?
    i dont know anything about algo trading or programming them.

    curious if my observation is correct or not.
    or is that a strategy used by shorts? (this would make alot of sense if it was since it primes the stock for them)

    please dont be a degenerate, read the post before replying.
     
  2. Businessman

    Businessman


    It would help if you didn't write such a 'degenerate' post yourself.
     
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  3. mute9003

    mute9003

    Asking questions is how people learn.
    You are blocked sir thank you for participation
    You are the degenerate i was talking about. There is always one or two
     
  4. 2rosy

    2rosy

    is there an attribute on an execution that identifies it as an algo?
     
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  5. MarkBrown

    MarkBrown

    well yea we have to most powerful ai in the world here in texas and it's shorting tha market day and night, breaking the whole world so we can step in and take it at rock bottom. within 4 years we should have it all near zero, that's the plan.
     
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  6. Read the title, knew it would be a mute post. I'm honestly trying my best to help you here.

    Braddah, ya gotta give up on trying to figure out how/why "the algos" work. Rest assured, it's a waste of your time. "the algos" run basically all trading, at all times, with very little human interaction. Especially on such cheap and crummy ass stocks. If you get a masters or phd in computer science, you can care about how they work. Until then, just accept that they work.

    Let go of the delusion of easy riches from penny stocks. What attracts you to penny stocks? That is a serious question. I'm genuinely curious as to your mindset and thought process here.

    Stop looking at such fast charts! No doubt you're using them so that you can have a very close stop. This is a losing strategy.

    These are the conclusions of everyone's replies to most all of your posts.

    You may think i'm coming across as harsh but you're stuck in a riptide, swimming in place. To get to the shore, you need to change your approach and swim diagonally.

    Wishing you the best of luck on your journey...
     
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  7. There are no trading conspiracy theories out there determined to play mind psychological games with you and trying to rape you.

    You just need a different approach and life perspective process angle understanding wisdom
    That's like blaming cops for being sneaky and hiding in strange spots to capture speeders
     
  8. themickey

    themickey

    I trade penny stocks.
    No trading is 'easy' but if one specializes in certain aspects of it, it becomes easier.
    If one trades only safe stocks then money flow is slow.
    If one trades high risk stocks then money flow is fast.
     
  9. I didnt mean for it to sound impossible. Do you have any tips for mute? You have much more experience than they have.

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  10. themickey

    themickey

    Tips?
    As mentioned ya gotta specialize, but also one must bear in mind what sort of trading do you do, are you a day trader or swing trader, I'm swing.
    But a couple of general tips for my style....
    Avoid very small caps as they have no money to operate, doesn't apply to day trading.
    Look at a scale of stocks, starting from the smallest caps look for those with the highest daily trading turnover, eg small companies with huge market interest.
    These present the best short term opportunities.
    I look at management also, are they a bunch of bs artist paper shuffling con artists who change with the wind what they do, ie this week exploring for Rare Earths, next week hunting for the next hot commodity, they are professional snake oil salesmen, the smaller the company the greater amount of bullshit.
     
    #10     Apr 17, 2025
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