Any way to trade forward vol through earnings

Discussion in 'Options' started by tooriginal, Aug 30, 2023.

  1. Check out CRWD 1 week forward vol at 32%.
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    Realized 7 day (about 7 trading days between now and Sept 8th expiry) is almost never below 32%:
    upload_2023-8-30_11-50-24.png

    Outside of earnings a calendar spread would be a no-brainer. But earnings adds too much volatility to the returns.

    Here is a very convoluted attempt to position through earnings. Transaction costs make it impractical:
    upload_2023-8-30_11-53-6.png

    My thinking is to have approximately zero gamma post IV reversion.

    How would you position here?
     
  2. I assume most people sell options "to trade forward vol through earnings".
     
  3. jfttoots

    jfttoots

    @tooriginal did you find out an answer to your question?
    Despite the trading costs, your "convoluted" setup is nice and wide.

    BTW what is that "console 1/a" software? Is it a script that calcs forward vols?
     
  4. I believe the market was right to discount vol over the period right after earnings:
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  5. destriero

    destriero


    Well, ofc.
     
  6. Strangle vs strangle is the most straightforward way to do that, just pick the right ratio.
     
  7. Quanto

    Quanto

    What do you mean by "Strangle vs. stramgle"? :)
     
  8. META looks like an example with post earnings vol at least as high as the period leading up to it as opposed to CRWD. 40 cycles not "all cycles" lol.
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  9. Quanto

    Quanto

    Same please also for daily Call options ATM IV and Put options ATM IV, or the avg from both.