Another day, another chance for the lefties to turn the Olympics into a SH#T SHOW

Discussion in 'Politics' started by TreeFrogTrader, Jul 31, 2024.


  1. Okay, so here I am back a day later shamelessly doing an "I told you so."

    This stupid fucking shit needs to end. The lefties are accomplishing nothing other than endangering or humiliating real women.

    Note to lefties: Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

    Boxer who had gender test issue wins first Olympic fight in Paris when opponent quits after 46 seconds

    Afterward, a still-tearful Carini said she quit because of intense pain in her nose after the opening punches. Carini, who had a spot of blood on her trunks, said she wasn't making a political statement and was not refusing to fight Khelif.

    “I felt a severe pain in my nose, and with the maturity of a boxer, I said ‘enough,’ because I didn’t want to, I didn’t want to, I couldn’t finish the match," Carini said.

    https://www.nbcnewyork.com/paris-20...est-imane-khelif-angela-carini-match/5656773/
     
  2. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Turns to the question... who is going to sponsor this crap -- as major sponsor after major sponsor backs away after the Paris fiasco.

    ‘Increasingly political’ Olympics loses $835 million sponsor Toyota following Paris debacle
    The International Olympic Committee lost another longstanding sponsorship deal in one month as Toyota announced its farewell.
    https://firstsportz.com/increasingl...llion-sponsor-toyota-following-paris-debacle/
     
  3. Toyota be part of the problem.

    Toyota pushes DEI policies such as child sex changes and gender-preferential treatment
    Robby Starbuck, a conservative activist and filmmaker, conducted an analysis of the company's policies and found that its Diversity, Equity and Inclusion measures also integrate a drag queen program at a summer camp for children who identify as LGBT.

    https://voz.us/en/society/240928/16...change-and-gender-preferential-treatment.html
     
  4. Has anyone proven the Algerian fighter was indeed a biological male? Failing a test on testosterone alone is not indicative of anything (some women produce test and some men produce estro).

    Otherwise the Italian took a shot to the face and just quit...case closed.
     
  5. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The test the Algerian boxer failed showed they had XY chromosomes. It was not a testosterone test.
     
  6. The tests were performed by the IBA...The IBA, a Russia-linked organization was banned last year from the Olympics over corruption concerns, has refused to produce proof of the results or describe how the tests were conducted. At times, its officials have given conflicting accounts of what the tests entailed.

    Pssst....news circulating that she was disqualified right after she beat a Russian boxer.... might be BS but fits the story based on the above no? Not 100% sure of it though but needless to say IBA was found to be corrupt.

    I though you were all in favor of facts over simply repeating what is said on social media...

    NOW you believe Russia all of a sudden? wow....

    She hit the Italian square in the nose and the Italian quit. Case and fight closed. Dont get caught up in the ignorant fake news unless you have real proof.
     
  7. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    Actually I am quoting articles from what the officials of the IBA stated and the official statement from the IBA regarding these two boxers. International Boxing Association Russian president, Umar Kremlev, claimed that DNA test results showed the two athletes have XY chromosomes, but the results were never publicly published in order to comply with confidentiality rules. The IBA meeting minutes referenced in the press release state - the "BA has the results from two independent laboratories in two different countries at its disposal". The IBA uses outside labs for the determination -- both of these athletes failed the gender test twice.

    The IBA organization is headquartered in Lausanne, Switzerland. It consists of 198 national boxing federations. Yes, there are concerns about the IBA since Umar Kremlev was elected President in 2020.

    However none of this impacts the statements from the IBA that gender tests were performed and not testosterone level tests to disqualify the two boxers from competing as female. You can rail if the tests are appropriate to make the determination since no details were released in order to comply with confidentiality rules. The Olympic committees of Algeria and Taiwan wrote letters to the IBA asking them not to disclose information about the boxers -- which the IBA complied with. Leading to a press conference from the IBA where limited information was provided -- effectively a bombed media moment for the IBA panned by many reporters since no information they wanted was given.
     
    Last edited: Sep 28, 2024

  8. They refuse to make the tests avaialble or share any of their information. She definitely big and muscular but that alone is not enough.

    You cannot rail against posters here with fake news comments and lack of facts and then jump all over a news story that is not supported by any facts. The IBA claims... and then shares nothing...because of confidentiality?

    I dont know for certain but I do know nothing was proven for certain so when it comes down to it...you dont know.
     
  9. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    I provided the facts and information from official sources including the meeting minutes from the IBA regarding the decision. This is not speculation on social media or fake news -- but the known facts from official sources.

    Lets' dig a bit deeper. The IBA meeting minutes state they voted to confirm decisions from the national boxing organizations of India and Turkey to ban Imane Khelif (Algeria) and Lin Yu-ting (Chinese Taipei) from competing as women. Both national boxing organizations had independent outside labs perform gender tests. The tests on these boxes indicated their gender was not female. "Mr. Yerolimpos confirmed that IBA has the results from two independent laboratories in two different countries at its disposal, both of which indicate that the athletes do not meet one ofthe eligibility criteria to continue competing at the Championships.".

    From the IBA press release:

    The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as follows:

    • Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in Istanbul 2022.
    • Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in New Delhi 2023.
    For clarification:
    • Lin Yu-ting did not appeal the IBA’s decision to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), thus rendering the decision legally binding.
    • Imane Khelif initially appealed the decision to CAS but withdrew the appeal during the process, also making the IBA decision legally binding.
    Neither athlete completed an appeal of the decision -- that avenue was open to them.

    As a note - despite your unfounded claims -- Imane Khelif did not compete against a Russian in these matches. The decision by the IBA restores the win to "the athlete from Thailand, Janjaem Suwannapheng, who lost to the Algerian boxer in the semi-finals. This decision would allow Janjaem Suwannapheng to fight in the finals in the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships."

    The only reason that in-depth details are not available is due to confidentiality clauses. The countries that these athletes are from publicly requested the records remain confidential prior the Olympics. If the tests actually showed the two boxers are female then I think they would be requesting that the testing records be made publicly available in order to clear their names -- not hidden away. Or they would have their own independent labs perform additional gender tests -- which would have been paid for their own countries national organizations. All the available facts at this point appear to indicate that both of these boxers are not biological females.

    My positions on biological males competing in female sports are very clear:
    1. An individual with XY chromosomes should never be allowed to compete in female sports.
    2. An individual with testosterone above a certain level should not be allowed to compete in female sports until the testosterone is reduced to an appropriate level. High testosterone usually indicates cheating via injection for competitive advantage when competing as a female.

    Women have come a long way in sports. It has taken decades for women to make progress around the world just to be allowed to play and to have decent facilities to play in. In the U.S., Title IX drove many of the improvements for women in sports. Other countries around the world had similar initiatives. Now all this progress is being undermined. Any biological man can simply claim they are a woman and then go compete against women -- as was done at the Paris Olympics.

    My further thoughts on biological males competing as women can be found on this thread.
     
    Last edited: Sep 29, 2024
    #10     Sep 29, 2024