A success story that almost turned into a disaster

Discussion in 'Trading' started by Liberty Market Investment, Jun 3, 2020.

  1. I know that many of you were on the brink of despair after a series of unsuccessful trades. At days like this, you have to decide whether to continue trading and win back at least half of what's been lost (very, very bad idea!) OR just call it a day.

    You don't just end here and now just because you lost almost everything. There will always be tomorrow. But to make that tomorrow be the oposite of that dreadful today, you need to make a few notes in your trading journal AND... guess what... Keep sticking to your trading system,having those past mistakes in mind.

    Let me give you an example of a trader who recently got funded with us. He was doing the Qualifying Session (Step 2). And the way he started it, seemed beautiful. He made a few trades and earned half of the required profit target. Let's look at those trades.
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    A nice catch of the day high (attention: the global trend was up on that that day and the guy got lucky simply because he traded the US Session open which often goes different direction).
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    So a good start. Half of the profit target achieved.

    But what happens the next day? He tries to trade the open again, but this time he's not fast enough not to breakeven.

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    1- a very risky trade against the globex trend
    2- obviously lack of self-discipline (otherwise there would have been a small profit target)
    3 - the worst poiint -he is still too STUBBORN to short the rising market.
    Thanks goodness, he stopped just in $14 before he would have broken his $1000 daily loss limit, but that was a lesson to learn.

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    Let's see what lesson he learned the next day. "Calm down!"
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    He only took a few breakeven trades and never traded again for that day. A very wise desision if you want to take yourself together and do save some energy for the next day.
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    And it worked! The next day actually was a breakthrough which allowed him to pass the qualifying Session!
    And guess what? He earned his $2000+ that day on a single trade following the trend. Here it is.

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    Remember what I said about his previous day? You need to save energy for big moves, you need to be ready for the market too boost. If you are just revenge trading or doing your numerous counter-direction scalps, I rather doubt you will be save energy for a trending day. But he did. And that's how he got funded!

    Let's look at the remainder of his Qualifying session.
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    Some conclusions
    1. I never stop repeating - don't be stubborn, let the market show you what it is doing and how successful it is in that (works especially well in indicies)
    2. If you are having a bad day, relax and stop trading. The reason your day is bad is might just be because you're in the ranging market trying to trend directionally or vice versa. Trying to find "the range" in the trending day. That is why, the ability to tell one type of day from another is so crucial in the market.
    3. Always remember, to stop trending is not enough. Draw some conclusions about what went wrong. And then shut down your computer completely and don't approach it until the next day.

    Which might be.... The BEST trading day of your life.

    That's sincerely my approach to trading and everything I'm showing you here is a subjective analysis of how our prop traders are doing. You might have a different opinion, so I'm ready to discuss answer any questions.

    Slava,
    LMI Funded Manager.
     
    Last edited: Jun 3, 2020
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  2. Overnight

    Overnight

    On May 22nd, if he closed down $1,001, you would have closed his account, yes? Why? A mere 15 bux more of a loss and you would have destroyed this trader's dreams. FIFTEEN DOLLARS. Why?
     
  3. fan27

    fan27

    "Destroyed the trader's dreams"? Pipe dreams maybe :)
     
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  4. Sekiyo

    Sekiyo

    Trade what you see. Not what you think.
    Plan the trade. Don’t trade the plan.
    Confirmation bias are everywhere.

    There is a concept called “Access Point”
    It’s all about timing. It’s the trigger point.

    You think about a reversal
    You then more or less observe a reversal
    You then wait for the window of opportunity
    You then execute your plan, aka. pull the trigger.

    Be emotionless.
    Forget about your past trades.
    Your focus is in the now. Right here.
    Trade what you see. Learn to see differences.
    Adapt to the current conditions. Don’t over trade.

    Reviews your actions. The 5 WH questions.
    Solve problems. Improve your plans.

    Maybe video record your session,
    and sound explain your decision making.

    Some errors are obvious and easy to correct,
    Some others are more subtle and tougher.

    Great post !
     
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  5. Opcodes

    Opcodes

    volfix platform brings pain to my eyes
     
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  6. jys78

    jys78

    Hard to believe anyone still falls for these rackets. I guess the old saying holds true...
     
  7. Yes, and that's our sonscious decision that a trader that wants to get funded must watch their risk. You don't need to stop at $15 before you break the rule. Set your own rules. I usually recommend 80% of daily loss limit.

    HOWEVER
    , and here we are different from many other trading platforms, we have a Risk Management system that a trader can set up according to their own needs. In fact, you can set every risk parameter and NEVER break any program rules.


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    Our competitors don't offer anything close to that. Because they want you to fail. They want your money. :mad::caution::confused:
     
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  8. What exactly brings pain to your eyes? :)
     
    #10     Jun 4, 2020