52% Tax Rate in NYC... passes NY Senate...

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jem, Apr 9, 2021.

  1. jem

    jem

    I am so stoked that so many wealthy will remain NYC residents and pay their new fair share. (not that they were not paying a ton already.) This should be great for tax collection numbers.



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    "New York City's ultra-high earners will soon have to pay a top marginal income tax rate of nearly 52%, the highest personal income tax hit in the U.S. That means — in theory, at least — that some of the city's wealthiest residents could end up giving more of their paychecks to federal, state and local governments than they keep for themselves."

    New York's state senate on Tuesday passed a deal to raise the income taxes collected on those with annual earnings above $1 million. The tax hike for millionaires still must pass the state legislature's lower house and be signed into law by Governor Andrew Cuomo, both of which now seem likely to happen. The higher tax rates will apply to all state residents making more than $1 million, but the city's own local levies will make the Big Apple the highest tax locale in the country.

    more at link...

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/new-yo...-combined-top-income-tax-rate-highest-in-u-s/
     
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  2. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    So sad for all those millionaires and billionaires.
     
  3. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    'Millionaires tax' threat has some NY bankers, managers eyeing exits
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...y-bankers-managers-eyeing-exits-idUSKBN2BT2WX

    For decades New York’s bankers and fund managers have accepted the city’s high tax rates as a part of working in the world’s premier financial capital.

    But with plans afoot to raise rates as part of a New York state budget agreement, some financiers are exploring exits, emboldened by a pandemic that has illustrated how working on Wall Street may no longer mean working from Wall Street.

    “I’m already looking for an apartment in Florida,” said one highly paid person at a top-tier bank who asked not to be identified because his employer does not yet know of his plans to move.

    Others earning more than $1 million are considering still bolder steps such as moving not only themselves but also their entire investment firms out of the city, arguing higher taxes cut into their ability to pay staff.

    A proposal making its way through New York’s state legislature would have top New York City earners paying up to 15.73% in combined state and city taxes.

    New York state’s income tax rates currently range from 4% to 8.82% and New York City’s tax ranges from 3.08% to 3.88%, leaving the top earnings paying closer to 12.7%.

    Dubbed the “millionaires tax,” the proposal would add surcharges to people earning more than $1 million a year and beat out California localities to claim the country’s highest combined tax rate.

    Some among those who make $1 million or more, putting them in the higher tax bracket, are saying the city’s cultural offerings, which were long a salve, no longer outweigh the benefits of lower tax locations like Florida, Utah or Texas, especially given the success of remote working during the pandemic.

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    The tax proposal, which seems likely to pass, is the culmination of a battle between progressive and moderate Democrats. Until recently New York Governor Andrew Cuomo resisted the millionaires tax.

    The political dynamics have made the extensive lobbying efforts of businesses and wealthy individuals all but moot.

    Large financial companies including Goldman Sachs Group Inc, Virtu Financial Inc and hedge fund Elliott Management have already said they are moving some staff out of New York.

    Big companies will probably not abandon their New York headquarters for tax reasons altogether, but some of their staff and smaller firms, like hedge funds that employ only dozens of people, might, sources said. “This is real,” one of the smaller fund managers said. “This creates an overwhelming incentive to move.”

    Last month, a group of business leaders, including those of JPMorgan Chase & Co, Citigroup Inc and BlackRock Inc, took the unusual step of issuing a public letter warning that rich people would move out of New York if a major tax increase came to fruition.

    It said companies may have to move staff out of New York because their top talent does not want to be taxed at high levels. Some companies already have initiated moves for expense and corporate tax purposes, said people familiar with the moves.

    “When wealthy people don’t like something, they don’t protest, they just leave,” said Geoffrey Weinstein, a tax attorney at Cole Schotz.

    “The wealthy are under attack and they are seeing if there isn’t a way to lop off 15%. They are looking for options.”
     
  4. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    New York City's suicide mission should alarm the entire nation
    https://thehill.com/opinion/finance...uicide-mission-should-alarm-the-entire-nation

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    Note to America: Pay attention to the collapse of New York. The willful destruction of our nation’s greatest city is not an accident; it is not an unhappy misfortune caused by COVID-19. Rather, it is the cumulative effect of progressive policies that may soon wash up on your shores, in your town, and that can undermine the neighborhood you love.

    New York’s ultra-liberal legislators may have just delivered a death blow to a city already in decline by once again hiking taxes on the wealthy, producing a tax regimen that is the most punitive in the country for those paying the bills.

    All in, New York City’s highest earners will now pay a marginal tax rate of 52 percent; it could go higher if President Biden succeeds in raising the federal income tax rate.

    This tax increase comes at a time when New York City and State are already bleeding residents. Since 2010, New York has lost 1.4 million people; in the past year the number is over 100,000, the largest population decline of any state.

    That exodus has real-life political and economic implications; New York will soon lose one seat in the House of Representatives; it could lose two. You might think that would wake up its legislators.

    The folks departing are mostly leaving from the state’s wealthiest zip codes; those high earners keep New York afloat. (The top 2 percent pay fully half of New York’s income taxes.) Mayor Bill de Blasio doesn’t seem to care; last summer he told well-heeled New Yorkers in no uncertain terms that he couldn’t care less about their complaints about the city, all but pushing them out the door.

    New Yorkers are not leaving because of bad weather, which was the absurd excuse given by Gov. Andrew Cuomo not so long ago. Surveys show the mass departures are due to New York’s exorbitant cost of living, rising crime and – number one – impossibly high taxes.

    This is not good for the state’s businesses or workers. Facebook reports that New York is tied with Pennsylvania for allowing the largest percentage of small businesses – 31 percent – to go under over the past year. Who can be surprised? New York’s labor and tax policies make it the 49th worst state to do business in; the state has the fifth highest cost of living and is rapidly losing the customers that kept those small firms alive.

    New York State legislators do not have to raise taxes again. Thanks to the recently-passed American Rescue Plan, New York’s yawning budget hole was plugged by largesse from Uncle Sam.

    Hiking taxes gratuitously has always been a risky strategy, but today it is suicidal. Because of COVID-19, things have changed, perhaps forever.

    Over the past year, many businesses have allowed their employees to work from home. For the most part, productivity has been excellent; many workers have enjoyed their new-found freedom, moving out of town to the suburbs or to other states.

    Employers know this, which is why some companies have begun to open satellite offices outside the city and even in different states. They want top talent, and know that for many young people, a year outside of Manhattan has been an eye-opener.

    Plus, given the soaring cost of city real estate, businesses were already trying to figure out how to reduce their expensive footprint.

    To be sure, come September, many Wall Street firms will ask their employees to return to the office. The industry functions on an apprenticeship model, a process which does not work well remotely.

    But most firms are discussing requiring attendance fewer than five days a week, which would encourage many to stay in the suburbs. Especially since during the past few years another blight has descended on the city: increased street crime, homelessness and a declining quality of life.

    New York is dirty and increasingly unsafe. Thieves roam once-glamorous Madison Avenue, where dozens of storefronts remain empty; in broad daylight they loot designer stores like Michael Kors, which was robbed just a couple of weeks ago. Homeless people threaten passers-by; diners are hectored and sometimes robbed while eating outside.

    The cops appear in retreat; you can hardly blame them. What’s the point of locking up criminals if, under the state’s recently-approved bail reform law, they will be sprung a minute later?

    Why should the rest of the country care about New York? Because New York is not alone. Other great cities, including San Francisco, Seattle and Portland, are similarly in rapid decline, all led by far-left ideologues.

    Progressives like de Blasio have seemingly taken hold of the Democratic Party, attracting young people who do not recognize what anti-business, tax-the-rich, anti-cop policies can do to their communities. New York’s demise should be instructive.

    New York teems with brilliant people who have gone on with their lives even as their city has fallen apart around them. The city’s residents, who not long ago enjoyed a prosperous and safe community, could not imagine that elected officials would let the city fall into disrepair in the name of “social justice” or other progressive fancies.

    When Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-N.Y.) drove Amazon and its promised 25,000 jobs away from New York, they should have looked up from their daily pursuits. When legislators passed bail reform that made a joke of law enforcement and their destructive mayor cut police funding, they should have marched on City Hall.

    At the very least, they should have voted. Bill de Blasio was reelected mayor in 2016 by only 8.5 percent of New Yorkers.

    Instead, they moved to Florida.
     
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  5. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

    Bravo Mayor De Blaiso
     
  6. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

  7. Tony Stark

    Tony Stark

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  8. FL and TX are growing at a much faster flip than NY or CA. When competing for jobs a competitive tax structure is a major factor. NY has actually lost people since 2010. I'm sure some people will return after the pandemic, but it's an ongoing problem that isn't going away. I left for FL in 2019 and I don't miss paying an 6% income tax rate. FL collects way less revenue than NY per capita, but I don't see much of a difference in quality of life for the citizens. NY actually has way more homeless people.
     
  9. Overnight

    Overnight

    Which part of NY? It is a big state. Did you see much homelessness in Oneonta, Woodstock, or Albany?
     
  10. I worked in NYC so I paid NY state income taxes, but not the city tax. I lived in Stamford, CT and paid no income tax to CT, because my NY income tax bill was larger than the CT income tax bill. The homeless population is obviously concentrated in NYC (which has the highest taxes and is the most expensive place to live).
     
    #10     Apr 10, 2021