16-Delta is the "sweet spot" for short put?

Discussion in 'Options' started by turkeyneck, Jun 13, 2023.

  1. Hittfeld

    Hittfeld

    Study from 2007 to May 2017!
     
  2. Matt_ORATS

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  3. Just for clarification:
    I think by "16 delta" they mean a strike that is $16 higher than the current spot (as they shortsell Puts).
    This has nothing to do with the delta of the option Greeks, IMO.

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  4. Do you mean trading every day the DTE=45 (in reality varying from 30 to 60 b/c of only monthly options were avail back then), or trading just every 5th day?
     
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  5. how about someone post a real world strike and price of what the believe to be a 16 delta.

    Keep it simple
    thanks
     
  6. mervyn

    mervyn

    Watched Christ's YouTube videos oftern, lot of good training and intros.

    I had traded delta 10-15 weekly SPX Put spreads for 2 years on my mobile phone, the result is that it is not worth it, barely broke even.

    Perhaps if I trade SPY it would be different, can take assignement and wait for the bounce, rather thatn cash settled.
     
  7. Matt_ORATS

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    Instead of trading only every 45 days the 16 delta and waiting to expiration, which could miss some moves and lead to path dependency, I instructed the backtest to trade every 5 days the 45 DTE 16 delta short put.
     
  8. Hmm. still unclear to me how you did it b/c saying "Instead of trading only every 45 days" IMO contradicts their methodology as they opened every day a position (and in one of the test variants held it till expiration in 30 to 60 days).

    Their conclusion is this:
    "Since 2007, doing nothing and simply holding short put positions (16-delta, 30-60 DTE) to expiration has resulted in the highest average P/L per trade."
     
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  9. FYI: SPY is 1/10 of SPX... :), ie. the same stuff, just reduxed.
     
    #10     Jun 13, 2023