14th Amendment Time -- It's long overdue to keep insurrectionists off the ballot

Discussion in 'Politics' started by gwb-trading, Aug 30, 2023.

  1. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading


    N.H. attorney general ‘carefully reviewing’ arguments that could keep Trump off state’s ballot

    It’s the latest development in a long-shot effort by some Republicans to use the 14th Amendment to prevent the former president from appearing on the 2024 ballot.
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/...t-could-keep-trump-off-states-ballot-00113390

    The New Hampshire Attorney General’s Office is “carefully reviewing the legal issues involved” in a long-shot effort by some Republicans in the state to keep former President Donald Trump off the ballot in 2024, the office announced on Tuesday.

    Bryant “Corky” Messner — an attorney and prominent Republican who ran on Trump’s endorsement as the state’s 2020 U.S. Senate nominee — has publicly questioned Trump’s eligibility to run for president, citing Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.
    The section disqualifies those who’ve taken an oath to support the Constitution from holding office again if they’ve “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” against the United States “or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

    But other Republicans in the state have pushed back.

    “I don’t think the effort to limit the options for our primary voters has any legs whatsoever,” Chris Ager, chair of the state Republican Party, told POLITICO.

    Now, the state’s top legal and election officials are weighing in.

    “Both the Secretary of State’s Office and the Attorney General’s Office are aware of public discourse regarding the potential applicability of Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution to the upcoming presidential election cycle,” New Hampshire Attorney General John Formella and Secretary of State David Scanlan said in a joint statement on Tuesday, calling out “misinformation” implying that Scanlan’s office had already taken a position on the issue.

    The statement comes after the Secretary of State’s Office was bombarded with calls on Monday, according to NBC News, after conservative talk show host Charlie Kirk told listeners that New Hampshire was trying to block Trump from the ballot.

    “Neither the Secretary of State’s Office nor the Attorney General’s Office has taken any position regarding the potential applicability of Section Three of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution to the upcoming presidential election cycle,” the statement says.
     
  2. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    No one was charged with insurrection or even rebellion.
     
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  3. notagain

    notagain

    Then it's voting by a write in ballot. Political parties are one step away from irrelevance.
     
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  4. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    To date, four Oath Keepers have been convicted of seditious conspiracy:
    • Roberto Minuta, 38, of Prosper, Texas
    • Joseph Hackett, 52, of Sarasota, Florida
    • David Moerschel, 45, of Punta Gorda, Florida
    • Edward Vallejo, 64, of Phoenix, Arizona
    Now they will go on about what a comma means in the 2nd and of course try and argue their bullshit.
     
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  5. Overnight

    Overnight

    I dunno' why you keep drinking that "I'm-responding-to-someone-who-just-goes-LALALALA-I-CAN'T-HEAR-YOU" juice from your coffee mug, as depicted in your avatar.
     
  6. Bugenhagen

    Bugenhagen

    He can hear me. I have his home address so he is too afraid to do anything but pretend he can't.

    But he sees all my posts.
     
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  8. Are you saying this guy can't be an insurrectionist.......because he's just a little pussy?

    Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobs as he's sentenced to 17 years in prison

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    Proud Boys leader Joe Biggs sobbed in court Thursday as he was sentenced to 17 years in prison for his role in the Jan. 6 attacks on the U.S. Capitol.

    Biggs was convicted of seditious conspiracy and the government asked for a sentence almost twice as long as he received for being "an instigator and leader." He will serve a year less than Oath Keepers founder Stewart Rhodes, who was sentenced earlier this year.

    Legal affairs reporter Kyle Cheney live-tweeted the hearing, saying Biggs was in tears.
     
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  9. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    No one was charged with insurrection or even rebellion. Even Jack Smith didn't indict Trump for insurrection. The 14th Amendment discussion is a canard.
     
  10. gwb-trading

    gwb-trading

    The Constitution’s Insurrectionist Disqualification Clause disqualifies Trump from the presidency.

    Section 3 of the Fourteenth Amendment, known as the Insurrectionist Disqualification Clause, provides:
    No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or
    elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or
    military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having
    previously taken an oath . . . as an officer of the United States . . .
    to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have
    engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid
    or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of
    two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.


    As set forth in the attached proposed declaration, this clause
    applies to Donald Trump. Having sworn an oath to support the
    Constitution as an officer of the United States, then “engaged” in the
    January 6 insurrection as that term is defined by law and precedent,
    Trump is now ineligible to hold any “office . . . under the United States,”
    including the presidency, unless and until he is relieved of that
    disqualification by two-thirds of both chambers of Congress.

    https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-...to-north-carolina-board-of-elections-0723.pdf
     
    #10     Aug 31, 2023