kjkent1 wrote: Dembski says right at the beginning of his quote that: ID's "only commitment is that the design in the world be empirically...
James Bond: My Dembski quote is from 2002. Your Dembski quote is from 1996. Looks like Dembski's view has evolved. In any event, the 2002...
Seems to me this would only pose a problem for those that don't think that at some point in the future humans will have advanced technologically...
What would be the point of pitting a circumstantial case against a non-circumstantial case?
No, it's a direct way of saying the case for a non-teleological origin of life is circumstantial.
He sounds confused to me. In any event, ID is best described by William Dembski:
kjkent1 wrote: Not so fast. I'm not about to waste my time presenting a circumstantial case for a teleological origin of life to a bunch of...
The only way one can pin the "creationist" label on ID proponents is to define creationism so broadly that anyone that disputes that evolution is...
kjkent1 wrote: Why? You previously said: Well, I told you I don't have a test for ID. What I have is an intuitive, cumulative,...
I previously said I don't have proof of ID. I previously said I don't have a test for ID. Likewise, you have no proof and no test for...
kjkent1 wrote: There is evidence to support ID, other than just saying that something looks designed, but I haven't been able to get into...
kjkent1 wrote: And you think you have this for a non-teleological origin of life?
Teleologist wrote: kjkent1 replied: This supports my contention that the only one's that are going to investigate the possibility that...
kjkent1 wrote: If nothing in the fossil record looked like common descent then no one would be investigating it. All investigations begin with...
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kjkent1 wrote: The only one's that are going to investigate the possibility that life is designed are those that think life looks designed....
ddunbar wrote: Yes, the concept of common descent is a deduction from the "looks like" approach.
kjkent1 wrote; Sure, but what if the hypothesis merely assumes something MAY be designed? Certainly if something looks designed that is...
kjkent1 wrote: If someone thinks design has been established or proven simply because it âlooks that way to them,â they have obviously...
It might have some relevance when pondering ultimate reality but ID is focused on the origin of life on earth. One doesn't need to invoke an...
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