What is the most statistically predictable Option strategy?

Discussion in 'Options' started by xandman, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    Stock is at 45, strike is at 45. 1 month to expiry. What's the rough value?
     
    #31     Mar 1, 2015
  2. xandman

    xandman

    Actually, it is. I need to run the strategies under a back tester. An issue is putting these limited loss spreads a back tester.

    How would I equalize them? Based of probable/max pay off and TTE?
     
    #32     Mar 1, 2015
  3. xandman

    xandman

    You are highlighting the difficulty of calculating probable payoff value in long naked options.
     
    #33     Mar 1, 2015





  4. Need more info:

    • Stock price at entry.
    • Type of option position (calls, puts, long, short, debit spread credit spread, etc)
    • How much credit or debit was the position.
    • Option expiry date.
    • Estimated value of the underlining sometime in the future.

    With the above information all option strategies are predictable.

    In your example if I bought the 45 calls at $2.00 and I estimated two weeks later the underlining would be trading at $50.00 I can "predict" the value of the calls would be about $5.00 plus change. I can also "predict" the value of the options would be about $0.10 if the stock plunges to $40.00 three weeks after I opened the position.

    All option positions are predictable, the underlining is the unpredictable part.




    :)
     
    #34     Mar 1, 2015
  5. xandman

    xandman

    I think he wants the rough maths...

    =price of underlying x volatility x probability x square root of time
    =45 x vol x.50 x sqrt(30)

    Going back to probable payoffs of naked options. I think this would mess me up if i calculated probable payoffs with infinity to the upside and a real number for the downside.
     
    #35     Mar 1, 2015
  6. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    stock price at entry: 45. Short straddle. Received $2. Option expiry 30 days from now. Stock price tomorrow is 45. What's the value of the straddle tomorrow?
     
    #36     Mar 1, 2015


  7. If the entry date was last Friday then I "predict" the value on Monday would be about $2.00 - minus the bid/ask spread.



    :)
     
    #37     Mar 1, 2015
  8. Buy1Sell2

    Buy1Sell2

    Ratio spreads are the least risky and most profitable. However, straight directional trading is far superior. Get right.
     
    #38     Mar 1, 2015
  9. taowave

    taowave

    Ratio spreads is a very loose term.What ratio and why?

    By your beliefs,why not trade ratio spreads with a delta?

    It appears you have discovered multiple holy grails.
     
    #39     Mar 2, 2015
  10. newwurldmn

    newwurldmn

    What if there were an earnings release? Or is that not relevant?

    :)
     
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    #40     Mar 2, 2015