Total US Debt Rises Over $18 Trillion; Up 70% Under Barack Obama

Discussion in 'Economics' started by Banjo, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. loyek590

    loyek590

    no, we just don't call them "pensioners." in USA, pensions are private between the employer and the employee and none of your business.
     
    #31     Dec 9, 2014
  2. Humpy

    Humpy

    And what about old unemployed people ?
    Here even the rich get a basic state pension. It barely covers food though.
     
    #32     Dec 10, 2014
  3. loyek590

    loyek590

    we have a public system called "social security", even the lowest recipient should make enough to cover rent and utilities, and if that isn't enough, we also have something called "food stamps" for groceries. The social security system is going broke, but could easily be fixed by raising social security taxes now instead of being forced to later. Food stamps are no big deal. What's killing us is something called Medicare, which is almost identical to your one payer system, although here only people over the age of 65 qualify.

    so, on the issue of government paid healthcare, you, and anybody from your country, and me, and anybody from my country have quite a bit to talk about. Over here it's an economical hopeless mess, what's it like over there?
     
    #33     Dec 10, 2014
  4. Humpy

    Humpy

    Another mess really. The rich are getting richer and the poor poorer. The political system is fragmenting into
    Liberal Democrats
    Conservatives
    Socialists
    Greens
    Scottish Nationalists
    UKIP ( anti EU )
     
    #34     Dec 10, 2014
  5. loyek590

    loyek590

    well, I'll go with the Scottish Nationalists. I don't hate you personally, but we as a country hate the King, and always have. A lot of us died to get that greedy asshole off our backs. And that is why USA is so great, because we are one of the few countries that can say, "We fought and died for our freedom."
     
    #35     Dec 10, 2014
  6. Humpy

    Humpy

    Er yeah and taxes it seems lol.
    BTW we have a Queen currently. And as far as I know we don't want to re-colonize you guys if possible.

    Never could figure out The Fifth Amendment ? No offence but many a criminal must have been glad of it. I remember the old films of the mobsters answering every question put to them by the Grand Jury with the Fifth. Much better to conclude they are covering up misdeeds or crimes and find them guilty after umpteen murders etc.
    Enjoy your freedom . now as number 2.
     
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    #36     Dec 10, 2014
  7. loyek590

    loyek590

    pleading "The Fifth" is the final defense the common man has against the King
     
    #37     Dec 10, 2014
  8. loyek590

    loyek590

    to cut to the chase, the United States of America is just a conglomeration of common men. The United Kingdom is a conglomeration of "Subjects of the King."
     
    #38     Dec 10, 2014
  9. Humpy

    Humpy

    It's just in name only as we all have someone on our backs whether they are called King , President, Chairman or whatever.
    I can't think of anyone who is totally free. It's just a word that politicians use to fool the masses - sounds good but usually turns sour after the revolution and you got another load of bastards on yer back.
     
    #39     Dec 10, 2014
  10. Humpy

    Humpy

    Maybe that explains a lot about the new sub cultures. They don't want to be just part of a conglomeration. They dress wildly, clothes and hair. Say and do anything to prove they aren't ordinary.
    The old kings from centuries back had a lot of power but not these days.
    BTW thanks for welcoming Kate and William in New York recently, pity about the rain tho
     
    #40     Dec 10, 2014