Statistical Analysis of Intraday Data - Any worthwhile resources?

Discussion in 'Strategy Building' started by Howard, Oct 31, 2015.

  1. vicirek

    vicirek

    Dr. Evil, it has been already done.
     
    #11     Nov 1, 2015
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  2. Howard

    Howard

    I think you would benefit a lot from the chapter in Brett Steenbarger's The Daily Trading Coach where he talks about conducting historical analysis using daily data. It's fairly simple, but it is a good starting point. His blog also contains a lot of stuff on this.

    However, for me, I'd say a strategy such as that would be too crude and not accurate enough to utilize in my trading. If something works only 50-60% of the time, why bother? Might as well flip a coin, no?

    Last week on S&P, I actually discovered a pattern, admittedly somewhat rough, that repeated itself similarly the last 9 times I checked. Sadly, last week was the exception of the norm. That would make it 9 out of 10 times. Still pretty good, IMO, but I was disappointed to see it not play out as I had hoped/predicted. Adding more parameters though, I'm thinking perhaps I could have predicted the deviation.

    That's where I'm still puzzled. What stuff is relevant and what is not. And are some stuff relevant to include just some of the time?

    It's not easy, but I'm a believer. :)

    PS: I think it's amazing to see how many people who can't even tell you what the average N-day RANGE is in the instrument they trade. Knowing this alone will give you at least some expectation of what will happen on any given day.
     
    #12     Nov 1, 2015
  3. Howard

    Howard

    Thanks, man. Those are good suggestions. I'll look into them.

    My workload is currently killing me, but I'm hoping to learn programming on my own in time.
     
    #13     Nov 1, 2015
  4. dom993

    dom993

    I have been using statistical analysis to develop my trading systems for about 3 years, with increasing success as I learned from my mistakes.

    I have a webinar video on the NinjaTrader partners channel, from March 2015 (I think), in which I did provide a lot of information re. my approach to it. Unfortunately, on top of my ESL accent, the audio is really bad, which makes going through the entire recording a big annoyance, but if you can do it, I guarantee you'll get access to a lot of valuable information.

    As for your post mentioning a "pattern" with a sample size of 10, no matter the win%, consider that as noise.

    (the topic of delineating between noise looking as a recurring pattern, and a statistically valid recurring pattern, is the KEY issue in what you are getting into - sample size is only one part of what I use)
     
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  5. Howard

    Howard

    I would be very interested in looking at this. Thanks! Where can I find this? Would this be their Youtube channel?

    Perhaps, but I'm not sure I agree. I tend to weigh the most recent past the most for various reasons, hence why I didn't go further back. I had to go back a whole year to find 10 similar occurences.

    But I'll take it into consideration. I'm careful to jump to conclusions. :)
     
    #15     Nov 1, 2015
  6. R1234

    R1234

    I found it here. I will have a look. thanks dom.
     
    #16     Nov 1, 2015
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  7. Howard

    Howard

    Maybe I'm paranoid, but I've written out two posts today that I deleted before posting since I'm feeling very secretive about my approach. :)

    I'm going to see if I can watch that video now.

    I put together another piece of the puzzle earlier today. A lot of my questions have been answered, but typically, new ones arises when old ones are answered. :)
     
    #17     Nov 1, 2015
  8. Howard

    Howard

    Maybe this makes me an asshole, but that video seems to be a sales pitch?

    I'm also reasoning that if someone has a really, really good system, they would never fully disclose it in public or sell it. Instead, they would trade it themselves to become filthy rich. With a really good system, you should be able to scale up fairly quickly even starting with a small size account.

    Or am I missing something?

    I would never sell my own system if it was a good one.
     
    #18     Nov 1, 2015
  9. dom993

    dom993

    Yes it does (make you an asshole) - and yes it is (a sales pitch).

    Your reasoning is wrong. I don't have unlimited capital, or even a capital-base large enough to make a living only from trading. I have chosen to make trading my primary activity, and I still have bills to pay, every month, regardless of each month's net P&L. So offering my systems for lease is a good way to increase the return on my R&D efforts.

    You don't realize how much R&D is needed for a production-type trading system, this is out of reach for 99% of people interested in extracting money from the markets, and it is primarily for these people that I am offering my systems for lease (that said, I have clients who trade their home-grown systems + mine).

    You are wrong thinking I am *fully* disclosing everything - but it is true that I am disclosing enough for anyone with enough time & skills to get going doing similar things. This was my intent in pointing you towards that video, too bad for you if you can't make any more from it than this.
     
    #19     Nov 1, 2015
  10. Howard

    Howard

    I guess I'm an asshole then.

    Best of luck with your systems and trading for a living. :)
     
    #20     Nov 2, 2015
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