SCTlearning from scratch

Discussion in 'Professional Trading' started by jack hershey, Feb 22, 2014.

  1. Paddler

    Paddler

    Greeting, Jack.

    Thanks for the brief summary of SSR. I have some questions in green below. Please help. Thank you. Hope everything is well with you.


     
    #261     Jul 2, 2014
  2. Paddler

    Paddler

    Jack, is SSR your proprietary method? :(
     
    #262     Jul 10, 2014
  3. I'll post on each green segment you mention.

    1. I use the top 20 sectors. the whole string of sectors are "numbered" as to their relative ranking.

    2. Indiviedual sectors have a series of eekly rankings. thais is as weeks go by the ranking changes.

    3. the "week" is a standard time lapse.

    4. by using addition and subtraction you get differences/ per week.

    5. think of the unit difference/per week as a velocity or speed of change.

    6. by comparing the change of velocity over a two week period, you have a unit like iference/ per week /difference per week.

    7. of item 6 as acceleration or deceleration. that is the weekly difference is either growing or declining.

    in this analysis you are looking for "long" money making opportunities. Skip the "short" position trading. the goal is to see hhow what you are holding is succeeding in making money. If it is stellar that is a continue to hold. If the rate of return is not accelerating or at least holding it's own , then you must consider an exit to have "avaialble cash" for an opportunity.

    as you do the investing (short trem trading) it is best to eal within sectors and choose to trade with "certainty". certainty escapes most people who deal in CW type risk and do not understand the tool of certainty available from mathematics.

    In sectors, the set of elements has leaders and laggers. as a leader jumps out, this alerts you to be looking for just which stocks are highest quality and which "follow the leaders". when I correted white papers for NY Securiries, INC my job was to allow the "white paper" to be used most profitably by fund managers in sector rotation. this is not comparable to the BS of CNBC rew of 6 to 8 guys having a contest to make 10 decisions in a year. they are just screw offs eating up air time.

    By seeing the ectors rotate, you get a grasp of making top dollar all the time. By honing in on laggers that "follow leaders" in a powerful improving sector, you arrive at keeping money making its highest portential velocity by rotating capital to the correct place.

    anyone who does stocks sees the three year lists of stoks that make 250 % for three consecutive years. This is not making the optimum money velocity with big blocks of money.

    with PVT , you can have 100,000 shares making 17 points in a prifit segment of a position trade. that trade was assessed by a thrid party broker, who then offer a fee and commission discount to traders who use my PVT method.

    Here big money is in use in SSR. PVT is limite to a few million per position. SSR is for keeping larger money making a high money velocity.

    In trading stocks, the stocks go through phases of activity interest. I refer the this new increased interest as a phase change. the jump is seen in the independent variable. volume shifts by an order of magntude. This mean the public has taken an interest. SSSR scouts this kind of activity interest by using ranking of the sector (a largely fundamental analysis).

    One of the most corrosive hairbrained trial I was put through by the SEC was this sort of frontrunning. MLPF&B got fined 100'sK's for their embellishments of those they had coattailing me . When a home office of a brokerage firm starts hyping stock irrationally, a phase shift can happen. I had created 7 new sectors that were not listed as sectors. I plugged in fundamental data to show that they were like bubbles comingg up form the bottom of the sea. we met in scottsdale at the quilted bear restarant to examine them every thursday am. Now the location is called silicon valley. and the overriding mega set is now called semiconductors and computers., etc...

    All of money making comes down to dta processing. Breaking data into slugs is done in various ways. At some point the data is used relatavistically. the reason is to have an optimum effectiveness and efficiency.

    right now, the bar is so low to be ble to participate, that most vocal participants are just dummies. I deal in perfetion and logic and requires the use of the brain on more than a bese line level. A persom most think and use his brain as a superbrain to step off the base line.

    "super" is a Harvard neurologist's term. (rudolph E tanzi). it makes his books more salable. Again I can suggest how the system of markets work and the specific way to apply science and math, BUT not many people have their minds ooperating to be able to follow the theme of making money effectively nor efficiently. Instead they irreversibly damage their minds.
     
    #263     Jul 10, 2014
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  4. Sector analysis and watching industry charts are very important IMO. If one can use the timing of industry charts, it acts as sort of a leading indicator of stocks within the industry. For example, when the sector itself is changing from a short IT to a long IT, you can cherry pick the stocks you want.

    I prefer to trade the IT so I go with the leading stocks....not the lagging. Another way to gauge when the industry is going to run, is watching the leading few stocks in any industry to give a green light of when the sector is gonna peal out. Big returns with very few losses!
     
    #264     Jul 12, 2014
  5. Paddler

    Paddler

    TYVM, Jack. :)

    Top 20 sector rank sample (HTMMIS 2011).jpg
     
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    #265     Jul 13, 2014
  6. Paddler

    Paddler

    Hi Bug.

    Where do you get industry charts and the data?
    How long is the average time of your IT price move? Do you trade long IT inside a short LT move of a sector?

    For his SSR method, Jack says that he trades lagger stocks using leader stocks as his anticipatory indicator. I am not really sure about his rational. But my gut feeling is that he needs sufficient time span to load and then unload his BIG money quietly.

    Hope I can move over to longer time frame to give myself more free time too.
     
    #266     Jul 13, 2014

  7. I use IBDs stuff for the most part. IT moves last a couple months for the general market and about 3 good times to trade IT stocks a year. No for the third Q.
     
    #267     Jul 14, 2014
  8. river

    river

    The above post snippets were taken from another thread found here.

    Jack, while in a trade waiting for the next trading action, I often work on drills you have suggested. (I haven't smoked for many years and I don't surf for porn on my trading laptop so what else is there to do while trying to wait patiently?) I frequently find completing these drills beneficial.

    I thought I had become marginally adept at deciphering your drills but this one has me stumped. I attached my sketch of the three arrow sets but I fail to see how this leads to ensuring a false positive has not occurred or how it shows where one should sideline because no money can be made in the near future.

    Can you offer some constructive criticism on my drill attempt?

    -river

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    #268     Jul 17, 2014
  9. river

    river



    Elsewhere in ET, in a thread where several posters as well as a moderator apparently failed to see how addressing noise, flaws, and anomalies was on-topic for a thread on automated trading, you responded to a question I asked. I’m posting my follow up here in your thread in an effort to placate those members.



    It’s not my intent to be persnickety but is this really any different than using a bookmark and a rtl as failsafes?




    Thank you for the post; I appreciate the broader perspective in your detailed answer.

    -river
     
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    #269     Sep 11, 2014
  10. thanks for moving here.

    Finally I'm under more comprehensive treatment and the intense pain is being ameliorated. Next, I will be able to lessen the narcotics.

    I can now use both hands to type briefly.

    The triad of learning, building the mind, and creating an ATS(s), requires continuing rationality.

    Learning requires repetition, building the mind requires merging two sets of perceptions while sleeping. creating ATS(s) requires SA using the proper science and math.

    Thus I introduced the FS to retain fast tracking of rationality. No losses keeps a person rational.

    In the thread we left a person is providing info. He creates five ATS's a day and can only use 20% of his 1600 profitably in the fees /commissions context outside of having a seat, etc..

    He may stay rational by not using his creations since they are losers that work unprofitably. He creates in a cost free environment and doesn't move creations to the real cost environment, usually. he suggests going from retail to institutional to using an institutional seat. to be able to avail most of the created ATS's.

    I recommend fifth graders and above do one ATS that is the system of operation of the markets.

    they learn all of the parts of the system by repetition. They build an ATS in the mind as inference over a couples of months.

    The last step is creating a computer based ATS and operating it. ACCESS in either SQL or C# is the most common. You load the learning sheets as tables or grids. A few tables are dynamic and assure there is only measurable data used: past trend segments are closed by the "left side" data control, and internals kill the use of independent variable data.

    The day is traded bar by bar. So two tables automatically follow the bars and the trades, respectively.

    The FS remains.

    After the ATS is in place, begin with one ES contract.

    Use 5 phases to reach a retail steady State of three futures markets and 12 stock streams. After that use SSR for surpluses.

    stage 1 Run 2/3 of a month to create a 100 contract ES operation.

    stage 2 sweep phase 1 every two days 24 times to create a 100,000 share stock stream. make two more stock streams. Use the 3 plus profits to create a fourth stream.

    stage 3 Add second 100 contract second futures market (your choice)
    And add three more streams form prior streams over a one month period. 5, 6, and 7)

    stage 4 move to low latency area and acquire seats.

    stage 5 Add third 100 contract second futures market (your choice)
    And add three more streams form prior streams over a one month period. (8, 9, 10)

    stage 6 Use 10 streams profits to add two more streams (11,and 12) over two weeks.

    this takes about 9 months. The steady state operation is about a million net per day to devote to SSR. the reason for gong so slowly is to be able to keep accomodating the mind as to a slow change of money processing.

    Bar by bar seems to be the most reasonable way to "always know you know". Learning the 55 elements that make up the ingredents of 30 small tables can be done from fifth grade on up. An MFE is not in the cards since it omits creating inference as you see in the other thread.

    trading is not a speedy activity. the market supplies statistically significant data very slowly. The markets are huge and no individual makes any difference.
     
    #270     Sep 16, 2014